Wireless Audio System

afruff23 · 04-19-2006, 22:46

I didn't want to bump those older topics since they're old, and somethings seemed ridiculously expensive. Now if you have little network experience and can't afford/find soemone to install a setup, then I suggest you skip this and buy one of those overpriced setups. These are soem products I'm interested in for a wireless audio setup. The fact that they run on Linux makes me wonder if they can be hacked to do extra stuff.

Link
Link 2

The first link is $100
What's wierd is these products' descriptions are nearly identical, except one is $20 cheaper. They even seem to be related to each other as the 2nd link mentions the first link's product. The 2nd one is just software. If I understand correctly if I buy both of these and get the $30 license, then I can play WAV, FLAC, and OGG through the MVP?

It also supports Divx as long as your PC is 1.8 Ghz or higher. Why is this? I thought the device does all the decoding?

Anybody aware of any hacking of this device to make it support more things? I couldn't find anything. I don't really need it to play FLAC or OGG. But it would be nice to be able to play WAV and I don't want to spend $110 more just to play WAV.

$100 is great for being able to losslessly stream MP3, video, and photos to your TV.

Now you're thinking "afruff23 is an idiot; this thing isn't wireless". This thing connects to any ethernet network. If you have a wireless bridge(or a properly configured router), then you can wirelessly stream music. I've already done soemthign very similar with my xbox. I can play online at xbox live WIRELESSLY with only $20 worth of equipment (2 cheap Belkin 802.11G routers; $10 each at compusa). This should eb exactly the same. I could walk you through the steps for making something like the MVP wireless for just $20, but the steps are lengthy so I'll only post if somebody request them).

So what do you guys think?

afruff23 · 04-20-2006, 15:59

To get this to work wirelessly, you need several things:
1. 2 identical routers with bridging capability. Most newer routers support this already. I suggest you get an 802.11g router(or pre-N if you've got the money). Stay away from 802.11b and 802.11a. They have slow speeds and
short range, RESPECTIVELY. I suggest the Belkin 802.11G 4-port router; it's on sale for $10 sometimes at Compusa.
2. PC on at all times. The MVP device requires the computer to run some minimal software to work I believe.
3. Some normal ethernet cables(i.e. not crossover).
4. MVP device(link in first post)

Configure the routers. This process is different for every kind of router and they use different terms, so I can't really walk you through completely(note: this guide is very close to a walkthrough for the Belkin rotuer linked above). If you already have two identical rotuers, then set them both back to factory default. Set the ip address of the "A" router to something like 192.168.2.1 If you have a little networking experience, then you know you can set this to some other number, but for the sake of simplicity...

Then go to the settings for wireless bridge. Uncheck "allow wireless clients to connect" if you don't want anything WIRELESS other than your MVP to connect to your wireless network (devices which connect to the "A" router with a wire can still connect). Check enable bridging (DON'T make this router a bridge; simply make sure the options are set to allow the "B" router to bridge to this one). Then check Enable ONLY specific Access Points to connect. Now type in the WLAN MAC address of the "B" router. You can find this number on the bottom of the "B" router.

If it's not there, then plug in the "B" router to a computer. Go to the config page for the "B" router. Somewhere in there it should mention the WLAN MAC address. Jot this number down.

Plug the "A" router back in and go to the config page(assuming you couldn't find the WLAN MAC address underneath the "B" router and had to plug the "B" in). Type in the WLAN MAC address of the "B" router in for the "specific access point" box mentioned above. Most newer routers have DHCP sever on by default, make sure it is on for "A".

Change the connection type to match your internet type in the config settings or "A". Cable internet users use dynamic(usually default). Some users use static ip addresses. DSL users will have to use PPPoE and type their username and password in. There are some rarer types(PPTp for European users and Telstra Bigpond for Australians). Leave this option alone if you don't plan to connect to the internet.

Now for wireless settings for "A". Change the SSID to something else. For added secuity, disable the broadcast of the SSID. If you change the channel number, then make sure to remember it. If you use wireless security options (highly suggested), then remember to jot down the settings. Also find and jot down the WLAN MAC address for "A".

Now disconnect "A" and attach "B". In "B"'s settings, look for something like:
1. Use as access point
2. DHCP Sever (on/off)
3. NAT (on/off)

If you see any or all of these, then hit use as access point, turn off DHCP server, and turn off NAT. If it ever asks you to type in a new ip address, then type in something like 192.168.2.X. If ti never asked for a new ip address, then you did something wrong.

X is a variable, choose something other than 1 (since the router already has that). You can choose any number between 0-255 (ex: 192.168.2.180). Just don't choose a low number like 5 or 6, becuase you may have an ip address conflcit in the future. Choose a high number to be on the safe side (between 0-255).

Now let's change the other settings for "B". Type in these settings to match "A":
1. SSID
2. Wireless Channel Number
3. Security settings

Now let's change some other settings for "B". Go to the wireless bridging settings and check enable bridging. Also check Enable ONLY specific Access Points to connect. Here, you type in the WLAN MAC address of "A". Uncheck "allow wireless clients to connect" if you don't want devices other than router "A" to connect WIRELESSLY to your wireless network(wired devices still can connect). If you leave this option on for router "A" and "B", then whenever a wireless computer wants to connect to your network, then the wireless card will recognize 2 separate networks. I recommend you turn this off for at least the "B" router if you don't need to extend your network (i.e. more range coverage).

Now unplug router "B". Plug router "A" into your modem(if you're using one) through the WAN port (the port by itself). Plug your computer into the router through one of the LAN port (usually there are 4 LAN ports).

Plug your MVP into router "B". Run the MVP software on the PC. You should now have a wireless MVP. Enjoy!

Note: I do not have an MVP, but I do have an Xbox, which has an ethernet port just like this. I use this setup and it works fine. It should work.

EDIT: Whoo! That was long!

afruff23 · 04-23-2006, 00:20

If you want to do something like the aformentioned setup and have bought 2 f5d7230-4, then I could post the config files for the 2 routers, so all you eed to do is laod the config file for the "A" rotuer and the "B" router, connect all the wires, and you've got digital wireless audio, video, and photos.

04-19-2006, 22:46	#1
afruff23 Hater of Epithets Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,062	Wireless Audio System I didn't want to bump those older topics since they're old, and somethings seemed ridiculously expensive. Now if you have little network experience and can't afford/find soemone to install a setup, then I suggest you skip this and buy one of those overpriced setups. These are soem products I'm interested in for a wireless audio setup. The fact that they run on Linux makes me wonder if they can be hacked to do extra stuff. Link Link 2 The first link is $100 What's wierd is these products' descriptions are nearly identical, except one is $20 cheaper. They even seem to be related to each other as the 2nd link mentions the first link's product. The 2nd one is just software. If I understand correctly if I buy both of these and get the $30 license, then I can play WAV, FLAC, and OGG through the MVP? It also supports Divx as long as your PC is 1.8 Ghz or higher. Why is this? I thought the device does all the decoding? Anybody aware of any hacking of this device to make it support more things? I couldn't find anything. I don't really need it to play FLAC or OGG. But it would be nice to be able to play WAV and I don't want to spend $110 more just to play WAV. $100 is great for being able to losslessly stream MP3, video, and photos to your TV. Now you're thinking "afruff23 is an idiot; this thing isn't wireless". This thing connects to any ethernet network. If you have a wireless bridge(or a properly configured router), then you can wirelessly stream music. I've already done soemthign very similar with my xbox. I can play online at xbox live WIRELESSLY with only $20 worth of equipment (2 cheap Belkin 802.11G routers; $10 each at compusa). This should eb exactly the same. I could walk you through the steps for making something like the MVP wireless for just $20, but the steps are lengthy so I'll only post if somebody request them). So what do you guys think?

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04-20-2006, 15:59	#2
afruff23 Hater of Epithets Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,062	To get this to work wirelessly, you need several things: 1. 2 identical routers with bridging capability. Most newer routers support this already. I suggest you get an 802.11g router(or pre-N if you've got the money). Stay away from 802.11b and 802.11a. They have slow speeds and short range, RESPECTIVELY. I suggest the Belkin 802.11G 4-port router; it's on sale for $10 sometimes at Compusa. 2. PC on at all times. The MVP device requires the computer to run some minimal software to work I believe. 3. Some normal ethernet cables(i.e. not crossover). 4. MVP device(link in first post) Configure the routers. This process is different for every kind of router and they use different terms, so I can't really walk you through completely(note: this guide is very close to a walkthrough for the Belkin rotuer linked above). If you already have two identical rotuers, then set them both back to factory default. Set the ip address of the "A" router to something like 192.168.2.1 If you have a little networking experience, then you know you can set this to some other number, but for the sake of simplicity... Then go to the settings for wireless bridge. Uncheck "allow wireless clients to connect" if you don't want anything WIRELESS other than your MVP to connect to your wireless network (devices which connect to the "A" router with a wire can still connect). Check enable bridging (DON'T make this router a bridge; simply make sure the options are set to allow the "B" router to bridge to this one). Then check Enable ONLY specific Access Points to connect. Now type in the WLAN MAC address of the "B" router. You can find this number on the bottom of the "B" router. If it's not there, then plug in the "B" router to a computer. Go to the config page for the "B" router. Somewhere in there it should mention the WLAN MAC address. Jot this number down. Plug the "A" router back in and go to the config page(assuming you couldn't find the WLAN MAC address underneath the "B" router and had to plug the "B" in). Type in the WLAN MAC address of the "B" router in for the "specific access point" box mentioned above. Most newer routers have DHCP sever on by default, make sure it is on for "A". Change the connection type to match your internet type in the config settings or "A". Cable internet users use dynamic(usually default). Some users use static ip addresses. DSL users will have to use PPPoE and type their username and password in. There are some rarer types(PPTp for European users and Telstra Bigpond for Australians). Leave this option alone if you don't plan to connect to the internet. Now for wireless settings for "A". Change the SSID to something else. For added secuity, disable the broadcast of the SSID. If you change the channel number, then make sure to remember it. If you use wireless security options (highly suggested), then remember to jot down the settings. Also find and jot down the WLAN MAC address for "A". Now disconnect "A" and attach "B". In "B"'s settings, look for something like: 1. Use as access point 2. DHCP Sever (on/off) 3. NAT (on/off) If you see any or all of these, then hit use as access point, turn off DHCP server, and turn off NAT. If it ever asks you to type in a new ip address, then type in something like 192.168.2.X. If ti never asked for a new ip address, then you did something wrong. X is a variable, choose something other than 1 (since the router already has that). You can choose any number between 0-255 (ex: 192.168.2.180). Just don't choose a low number like 5 or 6, becuase you may have an ip address conflcit in the future. Choose a high number to be on the safe side (between 0-255). Now let's change the other settings for "B". Type in these settings to match "A": 1. SSID 2. Wireless Channel Number 3. Security settings Now let's change some other settings for "B". Go to the wireless bridging settings and check enable bridging. Also check Enable ONLY specific Access Points to connect. Here, you type in the WLAN MAC address of "A". Uncheck "allow wireless clients to connect" if you don't want devices other than router "A" to connect WIRELESSLY to your wireless network(wired devices still can connect). If you leave this option on for router "A" and "B", then whenever a wireless computer wants to connect to your network, then the wireless card will recognize 2 separate networks. I recommend you turn this off for at least the "B" router if you don't need to extend your network (i.e. more range coverage). Now unplug router "B". Plug router "A" into your modem(if you're using one) through the WAN port (the port by itself). Plug your computer into the router through one of the LAN port (usually there are 4 LAN ports). Plug your MVP into router "B". Run the MVP software on the PC. You should now have a wireless MVP. Enjoy! Note: I do not have an MVP, but I do have an Xbox, which has an ethernet port just like this. I use this setup and it works fine. It should work. EDIT: Whoo! That was long!

04-23-2006, 00:20	#3
afruff23 Hater of Epithets Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,062	If you want to do something like the aformentioned setup and have bought 2 f5d7230-4, then I could post the config files for the 2 routers, so all you eed to do is laod the config file for the "A" rotuer and the "B" router, connect all the wires, and you've got digital wireless audio, video, and photos.