Audio quality on original firmware vs Rockbox - Page 2

Kiven · 04-16-2006, 22:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by ogrt48

Orginal fw doesn't crash and lockup all the time, so it wins by default.

Rockbox has only crashed on me once

maglor_equaleft · 04-17-2006, 15:13

Can someone tell me what audio formats is X5 currently playing on the Rockbox FW?

afruff23 · 04-17-2006, 15:26

Why don't you go to rockbox.org and find out for yourself next time?
Link

maglor_equaleft · 04-17-2006, 15:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by afruff23

Why don't you go to rockbox.org and find out for yourself next time?
Link

Because I asked about X5. What formats are you currently playing without any problems whatsoever on the X5 with the Rockbox FW?:blah:

larryschild · 04-17-2006, 16:12

ogg mp3 and flac are working fine for me...
wma returns `no file` error...

except audio files: no videos work for me (and they are not supposed to work at this stage of development) and I threw some jpegs at rockbox and no probs there (only thing is that it starts out a bit too zoomed out... means a veeery big black frame to beginb with... but zooming is veeery quick...)

maglor_equaleft · 04-17-2006, 18:11

Well I thought that maybe he was just being nice then, ah ah.
My excuses for my very simple question.:nutty:

afruff23 · 04-17-2006, 18:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeus's Uncle

Don't worry about him; he's not very newbie friendly. Someone could have responded to him with the exact same answer when he hijacked my USB Charging with future rockbox development speculation: just go to rockbox.org and find out for yourself next time afruff.

It's ironic, b/c we were so good to him when he was a newbie: http://iaudiophile.net/forums/showthread.php?t=8552

Speaking of which, afruff, you think you can clean up the junk you put in the charging thread?

Maybe you should have looked at that thread before posting( I cleaned it up a while ago). I already did go to rockbox.org and found nothing on the subject of USB charging. And you say I hijack threads. Your post was very helpful Zeus.

And I was pretty friendly. I even gave him the link to the specific page with the answer to his question. Nothing is specific to the X5 in terms of audio codec support.

Audio codec support is pretty much the same for the newer rockbox'd players(i.e. not the old archos players).

Zeus's Uncle · 04-17-2006, 18:55

You just cleaned it up. I checked before posting. Thank you for finally doing that.

afruff23 · 04-17-2006, 19:22

If you still can't find otu what formats are supported, then here you go:
MP3, Ogg Vorbis, Musepack, FLAC, AAC, ALAC, AC3 and WavPack. There is also a beta patch to play WMA(non-DRM).

keytotime · 04-17-2006, 21:28

For those who need proof.

* Green is the Cowon firmware frequency response
* White is the Rockbox frequency response
The audio playback code does have a few bug's but they are minor and do not affect sound quality.'

http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/vie...eCodecPlayback

ckjnigel · 05-12-2006, 02:22

I would be very interested to hear somebody's impressions of playing music encoded with the new Nero AAC encoder; easiest transcoder to use is MediaCoder ver 0.3.9+ : http://mediacoder.sourceforge.net/changelogfullpack.htm
Discussion about Nero's offering is at:
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/...howtopic=44275
Theoretically, battery drawdown should be more favorable than for Ogg Vorbis and quality should be nearly as high -- but definitely better than iTunes-encoded.
That's talking about low-complexity AAC (LC-AAC), but high-efficiency AAC can produce incredible quality at 48 kbps and is, at least for cellies and PDAs, ultra-friendly to batteries. I see no claims of HE-AAC v2 files having been properly decoded on any Rockbox.

maglor_equaleft · 05-12-2006, 04:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by afruff23

If you still can't find otu what formats are supported, then here you go:
MP3, Ogg Vorbis, Musepack, FLAC, AAC, ALAC, AC3 and WavPack. There is also a beta patch to play WMA(non-DRM).

Thanx for telling me that... though I have already tried the rockbox on the x5 and it crashed all the time... don't know why... I will try it again when they finish the job.:hi:

Portach King · 05-12-2006, 15:44

When is rockbox for the iAudio going to give us Bass & Treble options though?
One thing I love about the original Firmware is the bass you get of it (even with the earphones it came with) with any distortion. I can't say the same thing for Rockbox, though I'm not the most technuically versed when it comes to equalisers. Can anyone give some good advise for turning up the bass? or should we wait for Rckbox to implement this fully?

dfkt · 05-12-2006, 16:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Portach King

When is rockbox for the iAudio going to give us Bass & Treble options though?
One thing I love about the original Firmware is the bass you get of it (even with the earphones it came with) with any distortion. I can't say the same thing for Rockbox, though I'm not the most technuically versed when it comes to equalisers. Can anyone give some good advise for turning up the bass? or should we wait for Rckbox to implement this fully?

What you mean are the BBE enhancements, specifically Mach3Bass - they will never be implemented into Rockbox, since they're copyrighted technology. But you get a rather nice parametric EQ with Rockbox. Still, you will never get the earthshaking bass that M3B is able to produce.

Portach King · 05-12-2006, 16:17

Well what I actually referring to was an option entitled Bass and Treble that should be underneath Volume on the Sound Setting menu. Maybe that'll give us some cool leverage forcoming close to matching M3B

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04-17-2006, 15:13	#17
maglor_equaleft Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 26	Can someone tell me what audio formats is X5 currently playing on the Rockbox FW?

04-17-2006, 15:26	#18
afruff23 Hater of Epithets Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,062	Why don't you go to rockbox.org and find out for yourself next time? Link

04-17-2006, 16:12	#20
larryschild Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 108	ogg mp3 and flac are working fine for me... wma returns `no file` error... except audio files: no videos work for me (and they are not supposed to work at this stage of development) and I threw some jpegs at rockbox and no probs there (only thing is that it starts out a bit too zoomed out... means a veeery big black frame to beginb with... but zooming is veeery quick...)

04-17-2006, 18:55	#23
Zeus's Uncle multimedia aficionado Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 2,157	You just cleaned it up. I checked before posting. Thank you for finally doing that.

04-17-2006, 21:28	#25
keytotime Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 110	For those who need proof. * Green is the Cowon firmware frequency response * White is the Rockbox frequency response The audio playback code does have a few bug's but they are minor and do not affect sound quality.' http://www.rockbox.org/twiki/bin/vie...eCodecPlayback

05-12-2006, 02:22	#26
ckjnigel Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 17	I would be very interested to hear somebody's impressions of playing music encoded with the new Nero AAC encoder; easiest transcoder to use is MediaCoder ver 0.3.9+ : http://mediacoder.sourceforge.net/changelogfullpack.htm Discussion about Nero's offering is at: http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/...howtopic=44275 Theoretically, battery drawdown should be more favorable than for Ogg Vorbis and quality should be nearly as high -- but definitely better than iTunes-encoded. That's talking about low-complexity AAC (LC-AAC), but high-efficiency AAC can produce incredible quality at 48 kbps and is, at least for cellies and PDAs, ultra-friendly to batteries. I see no claims of HE-AAC v2 files having been properly decoded on any Rockbox.

05-12-2006, 15:44	#28
Portach King Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 54	When is rockbox for the iAudio going to give us Bass & Treble options though? One thing I love about the original Firmware is the bass you get of it (even with the earphones it came with) with any distortion. I can't say the same thing for Rockbox, though I'm not the most technuically versed when it comes to equalisers. Can anyone give some good advise for turning up the bass? or should we wait for Rckbox to implement this fully?

05-12-2006, 16:17	#30
Portach King Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 54	Well what I actually referring to was an option entitled Bass and Treble that should be underneath Volume on the Sound Setting menu. Maybe that'll give us some cool leverage forcoming close to matching M3B