Cowon Z2 launched in Korea - Page 2

doomlordis · 01-19-2012, 09:07

I wonder if it has lost the spdif out of the D3, i use that on my DAC. The old 34 pin usb used to carry the signal, the micro usb probably wont have a pin free for that.

nehrou · 01-19-2012, 09:09

i see a phone icon somewhere on the site though.....wonder what that is about

Kizune · 01-19-2012, 09:19

Probably Skype or another VoIP service.

Peaceful1 · 01-19-2012, 10:57

5 Band Equalizer???? why! why!
O.K I Love it!
but I won't pay for it!

I think these guys own the Red Dot organization

lupu_de_balta · 01-19-2012, 11:07

good... now i am waiting for it to arrive nationally, so that i would be able to have the new jeteefects5. anyway, what effects has the j3?....

anyway, if it prooves to be good, i may look into it

Kizune · 01-19-2012, 11:15

JetEffect 5.0 doesn't introduce any new effects (as you can see in the list), there are just some more presets: The J3 has 39, the Z2 48. Maybe that's all.

lupu_de_balta · 01-19-2012, 11:31

or maybe it is about it's hardware audio chip. it maybe supports even more realistic effects. dude, if this comes to sound even a little better than j3, i want it. probably should better wait another 1-2 years to see if there comes a real android player for that moment. anyway, this one is looking good, compared to it's sibiling, d3.

so, i think that it just is the wait before this thing gets into europe, or any english version, and we will be able to see if it worth or not.

anyway, kizu, i have a little curiosity, now that it comes to this, sorry i know that it is in the wrong thread, but you, as you are german, are using your player in german, or english?....

Kizune · 01-19-2012, 11:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by lupu_de_balta

anyway, kizu, i have a little curiosity, now that it comes to this, sorry i know that it is in the wrong thread, but you, as you are german, are using your player in german, or english?....

I use it in German of course. o.o

sonic · 01-19-2012, 12:12

doomlordis, hopefully the z2 does have digital audio out with some custom cowon cable via the mini hdmi port. As you said, it's useful to have the option of using your PMP with a DAC.

I think I saw n-band wifi capability on the Z2 which is an improvement on the D3.

Kizune · 01-19-2012, 12:22

The D3 was a beta product, I agree. But the Z2 looks pretty decent now and obviously, it is made for the international market (the Z2 has a miniUSB and a miniHDMI port).
But I seriously doubt Cowon ever manages to be a market leader. Most people don't know Cowon and those who do are only a marginal group. The majority buys smartphones.
Also, Cowon's managers still practice their weird "we-don't-listen-to-suggestions-from-people-outside-Korea behavior" which doesn't really improve their situation...

Bill726 · 01-19-2012, 14:05

Any word on this coming to the US/Europe? Also, what is the typical time between announcement and release?

doniago · 01-19-2012, 15:04

3 Minutes, 57 Seconds. :p

sonic · 01-19-2012, 15:07

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Kizune · 01-19-2012, 15:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by ill_i_bus

I see where you're coming from Kizu. I guess I really meant market leader in terms of quality vs others iaudiophile members are likely to go for such as Sony, Archos, Samsung (sound), iRiver etc, not in terms of sales which I suppose would be the obvious definition of 'market leader'.

Ah, I see what you mean, thanks for the clarification.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ill_i_bus

However for this year's release (in terms of available tech, current android developments, looking at market trends and other releases/previews etc) I still see it as lacking and not living up to the potential.

Yeah, but this is Cowon... they are always... backwards.
For example, when the S9 was released, Flash 9 was available and when the J3 was released, Flash 10 was there... but both players use an ancient and slow Flash 7 engine.
For the J3, Cowon could have at least updated the engine to Flash 8 since it introduces a lot of awesome improvements and thus would have made the player a great upgrade, but nooo....

I just want to say... you shouldn't expect that Cowon uses the latest hardware.
IMO it's already great that Cowon embedded a Cortex A8 instead of a cheap and crappy Telechips CPU in the Z2. The GHz aren't always a good indicator for performance, it's also the architecture that counts (e.g. compare Intel's Sandy Bridge CPUs with older CPUs... lower GHz, but superior performance).

edit:

Huh, you deleted your post? Oo
I'll leave this post here though, it shows my standpoint quite well.

t.k. the hedgehog · 01-19-2012, 15:40

well don't forget that tablets don't have 3G or 4G or Phone radios...and they average 7-12 hours music-only. 20 hours isn't bad for android.

01-19-2012, 09:09	#17
nehrou Gangsta 4 Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Jamaica Posts: 81	i see a phone icon somewhere on the site though.....wonder what that is about __________________ Cowon J3 [Mainmenus --> Lynx\|Cube\|X7] [Music--> Sense] [Picture--> Vision] [Video --> Klaus] [Browser --> Klaus] “Without music, life would be an error.” PAST PLAYERS Cowon X5L iAudio 7 In-Ear: CX 200 Over-Ear: Audio-Technica ATH-M50

01-19-2012, 09:19	#18
Kizune Feel free to call me 'Kizu' ;) Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Germany, Baden-Württemberg Posts: 5,968	Probably Skype or another VoIP service. __________________ me @ Google+ \| Twitter \| Flickr \| deviantART audio setup: Cowon J3 32gb \| Cowon Z2 16gb \| Audio Technica ATH-M50 other: Galaxy Nexus \| Nexus 7

01-19-2012, 10:57	#19
Peaceful1 .....silence..... Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Tehran(IRAN) Posts: 1,041	5 Band Equalizer???? why! why! O.K I Love it! but I won't pay for it! I think these guys own the Red Dot organization __________________ peace is not a reason its a way of life my ROCKBOX is --->clip+ed-clip ed-Fuze ed-D2+ed Fiio E3-FiioE5-FiioE7 AKG 518DJ,AKG 340,MDR-Q68 Black,EP-630,Cowon CE1 Last edited by Peaceful1; 01-19-2012 at 11:05..

01-19-2012, 11:15	#21
Kizune Feel free to call me 'Kizu' ;) Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Germany, Baden-Württemberg Posts: 5,968	JetEffect 5.0 doesn't introduce any new effects (as you can see in the list), there are just some more presets: The J3 has 39, the Z2 48. Maybe that's all. __________________ me @ Google+ \| Twitter \| Flickr \| deviantART audio setup: Cowon J3 32gb \| Cowon Z2 16gb \| Audio Technica ATH-M50 other: Galaxy Nexus \| Nexus 7

01-19-2012, 12:12	#24
sonic Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 116	doomlordis, hopefully the z2 does have digital audio out with some custom cowon cable via the mini hdmi port. As you said, it's useful to have the option of using your PMP with a DAC. I think I saw n-band wifi capability on the Z2 which is an improvement on the D3. Last edited by sonic; 01-19-2012 at 17:25..

01-19-2012, 09:07	#16
doomlordis Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 53	I wonder if it has lost the spdif out of the D3, i use that on my DAC. The old 34 pin usb used to carry the signal, the micro usb probably wont have a pin free for that.

01-19-2012, 11:07	#20
lupu_de_balta Wolf_of_water Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Campulung, Arges, Romania Posts: 336	good... now i am waiting for it to arrive nationally, so that i would be able to have the new jeteefects5. anyway, what effects has the j3?.... anyway, if it prooves to be good, i may look into it

01-19-2012, 11:31	#22
lupu_de_balta Wolf_of_water Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Campulung, Arges, Romania Posts: 336	or maybe it is about it's hardware audio chip. it maybe supports even more realistic effects. dude, if this comes to sound even a little better than j3, i want it. probably should better wait another 1-2 years to see if there comes a real android player for that moment. anyway, this one is looking good, compared to it's sibiling, d3. so, i think that it just is the wait before this thing gets into europe, or any english version, and we will be able to see if it worth or not. anyway, kizu, i have a little curiosity, now that it comes to this, sorry i know that it is in the wrong thread, but you, as you are german, are using your player in german, or english?....

01-19-2012, 12:22	#25
Kizune Feel free to call me 'Kizu' ;) Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Germany, Baden-Württemberg Posts: 5,968	The D3 was a beta product, I agree. But the Z2 looks pretty decent now and obviously, it is made for the international market (the Z2 has a miniUSB and a miniHDMI port). But I seriously doubt Cowon ever manages to be a market leader. Most people don't know Cowon and those who do are only a marginal group. The majority buys smartphones. Also, Cowon's managers still practice their weird "we-don't-listen-to-suggestions-from-people-outside-Korea behavior" which doesn't really improve their situation... __________________ me @ Google+ \| Twitter \| Flickr \| deviantART audio setup: Cowon J3 32gb \| Cowon Z2 16gb \| Audio Technica ATH-M50 other: Galaxy Nexus \| Nexus 7 Last edited by Kizune; 01-19-2012 at 12:31..

01-19-2012, 14:05	#26
Bill726 Wandering Ninja Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: In my mind Posts: 51	Any word on this coming to the US/Europe? Also, what is the typical time between announcement and release? __________________ This post has been typed on a Blackberry Playbook My name is actually Will

01-19-2012, 15:04	#27
doniago I, Like, Do Stuff Here. Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Burlington, VT Posts: 4,651	3 Minutes, 57 Seconds. :p __________________ DonIago Iron Mod "When you do things right, people won't be sure you did anything at all."

01-19-2012, 15:07	#28
sonic Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 116	deleted - Last edited by sonic; 01-19-2012 at 15:11..

01-19-2012, 15:40	#30
t.k. the hedgehog Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 72	well don't forget that tablets don't have 3G or 4G or Phone radios...and they average 7-12 hours music-only. 20 hours isn't bad for android.

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