Okay, bought a 32GB... Now, what?!

[DSperber]

Originally Posted by WAI

Edit: DSperber, .ZIP and .RAR are pretty much the same so please that was un-called for

I understand.

But the fact is, the downloaded files are ZIP files, not RAR files, and I am just trying to clarify so as to avoid confusion. I am trying to be helpful, and answer his questions.

[andrewmazlim]

Originally Posted by DSperber

If you re-read post #24 (that's just a few above this one), you will see that I've already answered your questions. I'm not trying to be difficult, but you asked this same question earlier, and it was already answered earlier.

(1) these are ZIP files, not RAR files, although I realize it's not critical. I don't know why you keep insisting that they are RAR files.

(2) you place the un-zipped contents into \System\Flash UI on the internal storage of the J3. This was expressed TWICE in my post #24.

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Again, you unzip the downloaded distribution file, and place the de-compressed contents in \System\Flash UI on internal storage of the J3. Then "safely remove hardware", disconnect the J3 from PC, and re-boot. You're now using whatever one or more UCI's you've installed.

I have my WinRar, opening all the zipped files and the files' icon are "WinRar" ones... Was I answer your first question?

I'm 41 years old, quite elder. I'm FORGETING to much...

Thxs for your DOUBLE answer, btw.

[andrewmazlim]

Originally Posted by WAI

Extract All Files within .RAR into the Flash UI Folder located @ROOT/SYSTEM/Flash UI


Edit: DSperber, .ZIP and .RAR are pretty much the same so please that was un-called for

Thxs for the answer, laddie. Appreciated.

[andrewmazlim]

Originally Posted by DSperber

Other than boot time, where exactly the OPPOSITE EFFECT IS TRUE WITH THE J3 (i.e. if you put many thousands of files on external storage you will cause additional boot time of 30-60 seconds, whereas if those same thousands of files are on internal storage and you haven't changed anything since last boot then the J3 will boot in 2-3 seconds), I can't imagine any reason whatsoever why you would think that the J3 would "run faster, without lags [whatever that means]" if there's nothing of consequence on internal storage.

Other than the speed of internal J3 storage (which I am guessing is Class 6) vs. the speed of external storage (e.g. Class 2), where again I would think exactly the opposite of what you are suggesting would be true (i.e. Class 6 memory is simply faster than Class 2 memory), I don't know what you could do to "prove" what you are claiming. My own feeling is that there is essentially no difference... other than the previously explained ADDITIONAL BOOT TIME because of the presence of music files on external storage.

As you may "notice", I'm quite "green" with so "sophisticated" media players. I'm usually very experienced with mobile phones (smartphones), tabletPC & desktops. So, from my experience in smartphones, if you filling your interior storage, the device's getting extremelly "slow".
That's why I wrote the above comment/thought...

Okay, so I'm filling first the interior 8GB... and then, moving to miniSD.
(Well, to be honest, I don't believe I'm gonna FILL completelly the interior, but... we never know, hey?)

[andrewmazlim]

Well, I placed the files from the zipped ones (just the "Lynx", though) into the \System\Flash UI folder, removed safely the J3, reboot... and nothing happen really. Also, I couldn't find anything "unusual" in settings or what...

[Asterix77]

Originally Posted by andrewmazlim

You missed my point. I wrote, in every device I have, when I'm NOT filling the interior storage (but the exterior), the device runs faster (without lags).

The 8GB one...

You should have gone for the 4gb then, it would have saved you money.
Those 8 gb are wasted if you're not going to use them anyway...

I don't think the J3 is more sophisticated than a smartphone, tablet or any of such devices...it just has a very good sound chip and great screen.

I still think, not using the internal storage because of the speed is an odd theory, but everyone uses his J3 the way he/she likes...

[Kizune]

Please stop posting multiple posts in a row. There's an edit button for that purpose.

About your problem with Lynx: You have to make sure that you are in the mainmenu you just replaced. If you have replaced mainmenu 1, you must enter the menu which had only icons by default. If it's the second one, you have to open the list-styled mainmenu and if it's the third one, open the mainmenu which had icons and widgets.

Also, make sure that you don't add the .swf to the filename if your operating system doesn't show file extensions.

[andrewmazlim]

Originally Posted by Asterix77

You should have gone for the 4gb then, it would have saved you money.
Those 8 gb are wasted if you're not going to use them anyway...

I don't think the J3 is more sophisticated than a smartphone, tablet or any of such devices...it just has a very good sound chip and great screen.

I still think, not using the internal storage because of the speed is an odd theory, but everyone uses his J3 the way he/she likes...

I told ya, I'm "green" with "smart-players"; I only had simple small "pen" Sony mp3s... I'll probably do as you're saying and I'll fill the interior first.

About the choice (giving more money for the 8GB), first... the 4GB wasn't available at the moment I bought my J3, second... I'm about using my J3 as mobile movie player too - I'll fill it (besides music) with films - of course, lower quality's than a DVD or short.

Originally Posted by Kizune

Please stop posting multiple posts in a row. There's an edit button for that purpose.

About your problem with Lynx: You have to make sure that you are in the mainmenu you just replaced. If you have replaced mainmenu 1, you must enter the menu which had only icons by default. If it's the second one, you have to open the list-styled mainmenu and if it's the third one, open the mainmenu which had icons and widgets.

Also, make sure that you don't add the .swf to the filename if your operating system doesn't show file extensions.

Not sure I'm following you, mate.
I just downloaded your zipped files (all of them, "Lynx", "Sense", "Leaf", "Vision"...). I didn't replaced the others, I'm waiting to make them final release; I just copied the "Lynx" files (what the zipped file had inside), in the directory the other lads said. I didn't "choose" any "1,2,3" (from the J3 default layouts), because I don't know how to do it.
The lads gave me the instructions (in the posts above) and just follow their words.
So, since the developer honor me and replied me here in my own topic, if you please, can you gimme some decent full instructions?

[Kizune]

The installation instructions in the Lynx thread say

"Download Lynx and extract the archive to 'System/Flash UI/'. Then rename the file 'mainmenuN.swf' to either 'mainemenu1.swf', 'mainemenu2.swf' or 'mainemenu3.swf', depending on which of the three available mainmenu you want to replace."

In other words, in order to use Lynx you have replace one of the three default mainmenus.
Read the manual about how to change the mainmenu, page 15 - 17.


You should begin reading manuals and instructions, they aren't as unnecessary as one might think.


And about the misunderstanding that my UCIs aren't "final":
Lynx, Sense and Vision are considered "finished", but not "final". Why would I mark them "final" when I still support and update them? "Final" means that the product stays the way it is and this is definitely not the case here.
UCIs that are final are Aero Music, Chakra, Dark Evolution,... in other words all my older UCIs which have a successor.

[andrewmazlim]

Originally Posted by Kizune

The installation instructions in the Lynx thread say

"Download Lynx and extract the archive to 'System/Flash UI/'. Then rename the file 'mainmenuN.swf' to either 'mainemenu1.swf', 'mainemenu2.swf' or 'mainemenu3.swf', depending on which of the three available mainmenu you want to replace."

In other words, in order to use Lynx you have replace one of the three default mainmenus.
Read the manual about how to change the mainmenu, page 15 - 17.


You should begin reading manuals and instructions, they aren't as unnecessary as one might think.


And about the misunderstanding that my UCIs aren't "final":
Lynx, Sense and Vision are considered "finished", but not "final". Why would I mark them "final" when I still support and update them? "Final" means that the product stays the way it is and this is definitely not the case here.
UCIs that are final are Aero Music, Chakra, Dark Evolution,... in other words all my older UCIs which have a successor.

Aha! So, I have to rename a file to function it, right? (I thought so, but I wasn't sure). And, what's the number for the J3 default widget's layout? (That's the one I don't like and I wonna replace it with yours).

Usually, I'm reading TOO much, my good friend. Specially, when I'm owner of a 2000+ books' library (some of them, 150 years old)...
I'm just a very impatience fella with "new toys" (like my J3) and I like to communicating with others. If you wonna "kill" some time, pay a visit to Modaco.com; I'm answering instantly every serious or not question, everybody does with no problem. I was boy-scout once, you know - I like helping people, so I believe (mostly wrong) that the others like to do it the same, also.

And... I didn't mean to offend you or something, by saying "not final" your UCI. Usually, in XDA-Dev., in other developing forum, in my team's mod ("Hegemonia: City-States", a mod about Rome: Total War), when you finishing something, even if you updating, you're writing "finished". I can't recall if you have "Finished" in your UCI's tittles - except "Lynx".
Anyways, I hope you didn't offend or something.

(But, to be honest, just because you FOCUSED on this comment, I think you did - offend. Don't know why you're so "jumpy". I'm very friendly to all of you here, especially to you - in some other topics, if you found my posts.)

Thxs for your crystal answers. Is there any way to EDIT your work? I mean, if I wonna change an icon or something? Do I need to work in FLASH or just replacing graphic files?

And finally, two more things: a) If I wonna be back in factory layouts menu, I'm just formating my interior storage, right? b) Is there any way to BACKUP my personal settings/radio stations and just call back the file when I'm formating my interior memory?

Anyway... MOST WELCOME for your help, dear fella. Thk you.

[Kizune]

Hey, the comment about "final"/"finished" was directed at everyone because I often get to read that people consider my UCIs not finished.


"Aha! So, I have to rename a file to function it, right? (I thought so, but I wasn't sure). And, what's the number for the J3 default widget's layout? (That's the one I don't like and I wonna replace it with yours)."

Exactly.
And the menu numbers are:
1: Menu with icons only
2: List-styled menu
3: Menu with icons and widgets


"Usually, I'm reading TOO much, my good friend. Specially, when I'm owner of a 2000+ books' library (some of them, 150 years old)...
I'm just very unpatience with "new toys" (like my J3) and I like to communicating with others. [...]"

Oh wow, 2000+ books... I read much either and my shelf is full of books. But these are maybe 100 and not 2000+.


"And... I didn't mean to offend you or something, by saying "not final" your UCI. Usually, in XDA-Dev., in other developing forum, in my team's mod ("Hegemonia: City-States", a mod about Rome: Total War), when you finishing something, even if you updating, you're writing "finished". I can't recall if you have "Finished" in your UCI's tittles - except "Lynx".
Anyways, I hope you didn't offend or something.

(But, to be honest, just because you FOCUSED on this comment, I think you did - offend. Don't know why you're so "jumpy". I'm very friendly to all of you here, especially to you - in some other topics, if you found my posts.)"

No, but this isn't necessary I think. As soon as they have reached version 1.x.x they are finished in my eyes.
And I didn't mean to offend you in any way. I'm sorry if it seemed like that. As I said, that comment was directed at everyone.


"Anyways... Thxs for your crystal answers. Is there any way to EDIT your work? I mean, if I wonna change an icon or something? Do I need to work in FLASH or just replacing graphic files?"

You need a Flash editor (usually Adobe Flash CS5/CS4/whatever) and a decompiler like Sothink SWF Decompiler to get the source file of any SWF file.


"And finally, two more things: a) If I wonna be back in factory layouts menu, I'm just formating my interior storage, right? b) Is there any way to BACKUP my personal settings/radio stations and just call back the file when I'm formating my interior memory?"

edit: Better answers below.

[DSperber]

Originally Posted by andrewmazlim

And finally, two more things: a) If I wonna be back in factory layouts menu, I'm just formating my interior storage, right?

You do NOT need to format your J3 at all to back out of Lynx and revert back to Cowon "factory" for that particular 1, 2, or 3 menu you decided to customize by replacing it with Lynx.

Instead, to revert back to Cowon defaults for main menu you just need to delete the just-installed Lynx UCI files that you placed into \System\Flash UI. You can easily do this by simply re-connecting the J3 to your PC again, and then just deleting the relevant folder(s) and files that correspond to Lynx. Then "safely remove hardware", disconnect the J3 from PC, and re-boot the J3. You're now back to "factory" (which is in the firmware, and is never deleted).

NOTE: do NOT delete the \System\Flash UI\SOL file which is there, as this is from Cowon, not from Lynx or any other Kifune UCI product.

And to get it back, just re-do what you did in the first place... just copy all of the de-compressed files from the downloaded ZIP file back into the \Systen\Flash UI folder on internal storage of the J3, "safely remove hardware", and re-boot the J3. You've now got it back and operational.

b) Is there any way to BACKUP my personal settings/radio stations and just call back the file when I'm formating my interior memory?

Again, since your J3's internal and external storage are simply like two additional Windows drive letters when the J3 is connected to the PC, you can copy whatever you want to/from internal or external storage using Windows Explorer or any other utility program anytime you want.

But you won't have to backup any other personal settings or radio stations when you use Lynx. The same Cowon-supported main menu J3-related "settings" are shared by both Lynx and "factory". And the radio stations (currently unaffected, since there's no Kizune radio UCI yet) are in a separate RADIO.INI file that is stored in \System of internal storage of the J3. If you want to backup your radio station settings, whether or not you use Lynx, you should copy \System\RADIO.INI from internal storage of the J3 to your PC.

And similarly, the absolute factory settings you had before using Lynx can be preserved in the same way, by copying \System\PARAM.CFG to your PC, and restoring it from there if you have to.

[DSperber]

Originally Posted by andrewmazlim

Well, I placed the files from the zipped ones (just the "Lynx", though) into the \System\Flash UI folder, removed safely the J3, reboot... and nothing happen really.

Since you've apparently been able to get things going, I'm sure you've performed the crucial rename of mainmenuN.swf file to either mainmenu1.swf (to replace Dynamic square with Lynx), mainmenu2.swf (to replace Counting text with Lynx), or mainmenu3.swf (to replace Smart Widget with Lynx) on the J3 in \System\Flash UI, depending on which of the three main menus you decided to replace with Lynx.





Note that you probably should choose the LEAST LIKELY main menu (of the three factory options) that you are ever going to really want to use, to be replaced by Lynx. That leaves the other two still available... to coexist with Lynx, and therefore that you can still choose either of these other two main menu interfaces if you care to.


Note that you can revert to either of the other two untouched main menus from Lynx, and you can also go back to Lynx from the other two untouched main menus. All three are installed and coexist and can be selected, without having to delete anything from the J3. Only if you actually want to delete Lynx and revert that particular main menu back to Cowon "factory" would you delete the Lynx files from \System\Flash UI.

When in Lynx, you change to one of the other two remaining main menu interfaces by tapping on the "+" (expanded menu) button at the bottom-right of the screen. The bottom menu bar now rises one row to reveal a second bar below it now at the bottom of the screen. To eliminate the 2-bar presentation and go back to the single menu bar at the bottom of the screen, you again tap on the "+" (now on right side of the elevated menu bar, with the other two buttons on that row now grayed out).

Now, with the 2-bar expanded menu bar presentation in view, the bottom row on the screen is a scrollable (left and right) sub-menu. From its intitial default presentation you can scroll it left (by tapping on the right-most right-arrow icon and dragging to the left) to reveal three player control buttons. If you do that, you can then scroll it back to the right (by tapping on the left-most left-arrow icon and dragging to the right).

In the initial default presentation of this expanded sub-menu, there are three buttons, from left to right: (1) power action - shut down, sleep or lock, (2) change interface - mainmenu 1, 2 or 3, and (3) show notifications.

If you tap on the middle button you can select one of the other two remaining Cowon main menu interfaces, while still leaving Lynx installed as the third available main menu interface that you can revert back to from a Cowon interface if you want to.

As described in the Cowon user manual, when in one of their main menu interfaces you choose another by dragging the power button (in lower-right corner of the screen) to the left, to reveal the three buttons corresponding to main menu 1, 2, or 3. Tap on that one you want, and the main menu interface will change accordingly.




One more point, regarding downloading Lynx from Kizune's web site, from the provided DOWNLOAD link on the first post in the Lynx thread.

The download page can be customized to provide a custom-built package to contain only those features you wish to utilize. Of course you can download everything and only choose to use what you want, but the download package itself can be pre-customized so that it actually only contains what you want it to contain.

In particular, the customization affords you the ability to PRE-SPECIFY which particular main menu you plan to use for Lynx. And this will cause the pre-packaging script to actually do the rename of mainmenuN.swf to the particular 1, 2 or 3 value you plan to use. You will not therefore not have to do a manual rename of mainmenuN.swf in \System\Flash UI when you copy the de-compressed ZIP file contents to the J3.

This also simplifies things for you going forward, because the customization definition is retained on your PC. If and when you actually do download a new Lynx version in the future, all of your previously checked and unchecked items will be pre-populated the same way as before. And in particular, your choice of main menu will also be pre-populated, so that you don't have to do a manual rename on the J3.

[Skydog]

DSperber,

Many, many thanks for this extremely helpful, well-written and detailed explanation -- exactly what I have been looking for. This should be a sticky!

[andrewmazlim]

Many thxs to all! Thxs, "Fox"!

Especially to DSperber!!!
THAT's exactly what I calling... ANSWER! ('Cause I'm doing the very same thing to "newbies" in WinMo/smartphones, in Modaco.com. I'm REALLY giving a full answer.)

Cheers to you, DSperber mate!

DSperber,

Many, many thanks for this extremely helpful, well-written and detailed explanation -- exactly what I have been looking for. This should be a sticky!

See, lads? Another "newbie" wanted the very same as I did. We spend a couple of... pages, for it. Anyways, I DID thk DSperber already?