Weird behaviour observed in my X5

Control · 08-08-2005, 07:21

I have the vanilla X5 20GB. Yesterday, during a long train trip, I had it running for about three hours without pause and it suddenly started acting weird. Each song would play for about 2 minutes, then switch to the previous song for the rest of the track duration. ID3-tag info was still shown of the correct track.

Imagine it like this:

Listen to track-01.mp3 (everything fine)
Listen to track-02.mp3 (everything fine for the first 2 minutes)
I'm now hearing track-01.mp3 again, while seeing the id3-tag info for track-02.mp3
Listen to track-03.mp3 (everything fine for first 1:54)
Same again: I'm hearing track-02.mp3 while seeing id3 for track-03
etc.

After changing tracks and directory this still happened, always at the same second in the track. Even turning the device off an on again didn't cure it. Only running a video file and then going back to mp3 files made it behave normaly again. I haven't been able to reproduce this weird bug today.

I have the lastest non-beta firmware on it.

Has anyone else experienced something like this?

Linoleum · 08-08-2005, 07:45

Try putting the beta firmware on there and report back.

Control · 08-08-2005, 07:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linoleum

Try putting the beta firmware on there and report back.

I think I'll try and reproduce it with the current version first. Just to make sure. If I succeed in reproducing the error, I'll go ahead and try the same with 2.10

doniago · 08-08-2005, 10:21

Hate to say it, but in a worst-case scenario it could be indicative of a HD issue.

the_Omniscient · 08-08-2005, 10:27

Dunno if you've physically ripped those mp3 from a CD or whatever yourself? In case you've used some unconvential ripping software for all your MP3s, it might be the encoding of your files that screws things up. Not likely, but just making sure here.

ssjmichael · 08-08-2005, 10:40

What's the Vanilla X5?!

madcow · 08-08-2005, 11:28

Yeah what the hell??
Vanilla.. it sounds nice!

When you play them on your computer, do they have the same prob?

Control · 08-09-2005, 12:49

OK, so I've narrowed it down a bit. The problem is reproducible. Apparently there one single mp3 file that causes this weird behaviour. I can play whatever I want, and it's fine, but as soon as I listen to 'Evanescence - Bring me to Life.mp3', my X5 starts acting weird as described above. After playing that song, every other song acts equally weird. Playing a video file returns the X5 to normal operation again.

So this evening, I'm going to do the following:

Move the file to some other directory on the X5, and see if the problem persists.
Then rename the file and see if it changes anything.
Move the file to my computer and check in Linux and WinXP if there's something weird with it.
Rename another file to the same name as the problem file and see if the problem still appears with the new file.
Maybe drop the problem file on a server somewhere, so that other X5 owners can check if they also have the same effects.

malachik · 08-09-2005, 12:53

vanillllaaaa!!!!??????

Control · 08-09-2005, 13:06

Oh sorry, I just meant the standard X5, no frills like L or bigger HD or anything. Just as normal as can be, like vanilla ice cream.

So, I've started on my test series and found some weird things.

It's definitely the file. When I move it, it still has the same effect, also when I rename it. However, I can't move it or copy it to my computer. WinXP claims the file is corrupted. Funny thing is, I can move it and rename it on the X5. Can't copy it on the X5 however. If I open it with Winamp using the X5 as an external HD, it also refuse to play. The first 1:56 play on the X5 however.

Further wierdness: When it jumps back to the last song I was listening to, the id3 info stays with the original file info, and even stranger: The graphical equalizer bars on the display still twitch in time with the original song, as if it were still playing. It's like the X5's display is still playing the problem file, while the audio chipset is playing the last one.

Mucho weirdo mp3 file.

doniago · 08-09-2005, 17:34

Did you encode the file yourself? If so, I'd suggest a redo.

ssjmichael · 08-09-2005, 18:10

Good thing it's not the player. Just re-encode or re-rip the bad files.

Konechiwa · 08-09-2005, 19:55

probably Codec. happened to me on a cd once. something wrong with the ripping or the file, not the player

Control · 08-09-2005, 23:21

Yes, re-ripping will probably do the trick. I'm glad it's nothing wrong with my X5. But still, it's weird. That was one of the first albums I had on the player, and it worked fine until last weekend.

badger · 08-10-2005, 08:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Control

OK, so I've narrowed it down a bit. The problem is reproducible. Apparently there one single mp3 file that causes this weird behaviour. I can play whatever I want, and it's fine, but as soon as I listen to 'Evanescence - Bring me to Life.mp3', my X5 starts acting weird as described above.

Serves you right for listening to Evanescence

08-08-2005, 07:21	#1
Control Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Switzerland Posts: 35	I have the vanilla X5 20GB. Yesterday, during a long train trip, I had it running for about three hours without pause and it suddenly started acting weird. Each song would play for about 2 minutes, then switch to the previous song for the rest of the track duration. ID3-tag info was still shown of the correct track. Imagine it like this: Listen to track-01.mp3 (everything fine) Listen to track-02.mp3 (everything fine for the first 2 minutes) I'm now hearing track-01.mp3 again, while seeing the id3-tag info for track-02.mp3 Listen to track-03.mp3 (everything fine for first 1:54) Same again: I'm hearing track-02.mp3 while seeing id3 for track-03 etc. After changing tracks and directory this still happened, always at the same second in the track. Even turning the device off an on again didn't cure it. Only running a video file and then going back to mp3 files made it behave normaly again. I haven't been able to reproduce this weird bug today. I have the lastest non-beta firmware on it. Has anyone else experienced something like this? __________________ There are only 10 types of people: Those who understand binary, those who don\'t, and those who know that real geeks count from 0.

08-08-2005, 10:21	#4
doniago I, Like, Do Stuff Here. Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Burlington, VT Posts: 4,652	Hate to say it, but in a worst-case scenario it could be indicative of a HD issue. __________________ DonIago Iron Mod "When you do things right, people won't be sure you did anything at all."

08-08-2005, 10:27	#5
the_Omniscient Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 44	Dunno if you've physically ripped those mp3 from a CD or whatever yourself? In case you've used some unconvential ripping software for all your MP3s, it might be the encoding of your files that screws things up. Not likely, but just making sure here. __________________ DAPreview \| More stuff to come \| Proud owner of iAudio 4

08-09-2005, 12:49	#8
Control Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Switzerland Posts: 35	OK, so I've narrowed it down a bit. The problem is reproducible. Apparently there one single mp3 file that causes this weird behaviour. I can play whatever I want, and it's fine, but as soon as I listen to 'Evanescence - Bring me to Life.mp3', my X5 starts acting weird as described above. After playing that song, every other song acts equally weird. Playing a video file returns the X5 to normal operation again. So this evening, I'm going to do the following: Move the file to some other directory on the X5, and see if the problem persists. Then rename the file and see if it changes anything. Move the file to my computer and check in Linux and WinXP if there's something weird with it. Rename another file to the same name as the problem file and see if the problem still appears with the new file. Maybe drop the problem file on a server somewhere, so that other X5 owners can check if they also have the same effects. __________________ There are only 10 types of people: Those who understand binary, those who don\'t, and those who know that real geeks count from 0.

08-09-2005, 13:06	#10
Control Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Switzerland Posts: 35	Oh sorry, I just meant the standard X5, no frills like L or bigger HD or anything. Just as normal as can be, like vanilla ice cream. So, I've started on my test series and found some weird things. It's definitely the file. When I move it, it still has the same effect, also when I rename it. However, I can't move it or copy it to my computer. WinXP claims the file is corrupted. Funny thing is, I can move it and rename it on the X5. Can't copy it on the X5 however. If I open it with Winamp using the X5 as an external HD, it also refuse to play. The first 1:56 play on the X5 however. Further wierdness: When it jumps back to the last song I was listening to, the id3 info stays with the original file info, and even stranger: The graphical equalizer bars on the display still twitch in time with the original song, as if it were still playing. It's like the X5's display is still playing the problem file, while the audio chipset is playing the last one. Mucho weirdo mp3 file. __________________ There are only 10 types of people: Those who understand binary, those who don\'t, and those who know that real geeks count from 0.

08-08-2005, 07:45	#2
Linoleum sdffsdfsdfsdffsdsdfsdfsdf Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 235	Try putting the beta firmware on there and report back.

08-08-2005, 10:40	#6
ssjmichael Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 221	What's the Vanilla X5?!

08-08-2005, 11:28	#7
madcow Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 492	Yeah what the hell?? Vanilla.. it sounds nice! When you play them on your computer, do they have the same prob?

08-09-2005, 12:53	#9
malachik Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 18	vanillllaaaa!!!!??????

08-09-2005, 17:34	#11
doniago I, Like, Do Stuff Here. Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Burlington, VT Posts: 4,652	Did you encode the file yourself? If so, I'd suggest a redo. __________________ DonIago Iron Mod "When you do things right, people won't be sure you did anything at all."

08-09-2005, 18:10	#12
ssjmichael Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 221	Good thing it's not the player. Just re-encode or re-rip the bad files.

08-09-2005, 19:55	#13
Konechiwa used to be #1 poster Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Western Washington State, USA Posts: 1,607	probably Codec. happened to me on a cd once. something wrong with the ripping or the file, not the player __________________

08-09-2005, 23:21	#14
Control Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Switzerland Posts: 35	Yes, re-ripping will probably do the trick. I'm glad it's nothing wrong with my X5. But still, it's weird. That was one of the first albums I had on the player, and it worked fine until last weekend. __________________ There are only 10 types of people: Those who understand binary, those who don\'t, and those who know that real geeks count from 0.

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