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80 Hz - +6
220 Hz - +3 780 Hz - 0 3.0 kHz - 0 13 kHz - 0 BBE - 3 Mach3Bass - 4 3D Surround - Off MP Enhance Off Stereo Enhance - Off Sony MDR-E818LP
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The guy who posts too much for his age.
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: California
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80 Hz - 5
220 Hz - -1 780 Hz - 5 3.0 kHz - 8 13 kHz - 9 BBE - 10 Mach3Bass - 9 3D Surround - 2 MP Enhance on Stereo Enhance - 6 um dont know the hertz, but i know the numbers and will be needing it when i get a new S9. -_-.
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Jays D-Jays
80 Hz - 8 - Wide 300 Hz - 6 - Normal 780 Hz - 4 - Normal 3.0 kHz - 6 - Normal 13 kHz - 9 - Wide BBE - 10 Mach3Bass - 6 3D Surround - 2 MP Enhance - On Stereo Enhance - 6 Since I got my S9 I have noticed how sucky the D-Jays are so I am planning on buying Audéo PFE's so these settings will probably change.. |
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Join Date: May 2009
Location: Isle of Man
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My settings using Shure SE530's
EQ: 80Hz 8 Normal 300Hz 5 Normal 1.4kHz 4 Wide 3.0 kHz 5 Wide 9kHz 5 Wide BBE 10 Mach3Bass 6 3D Surround Off MP Enhance Off Stereo Enhance 2 I listen to anything from Radiohead to full on extreme hardcore metal ![]() I also have one of those Fiio E5's however the added hiss with the Shure's puts me off using it. If I do eventually decide to use it then I'd recommend turning the 80Hz down to 5 or 4. One thing I have noticed is a certain... hrrmm the only word I can think of is "shrillness" with some singing stuff. What would cause this? |
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Join Date: Feb 2009
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basically just wanted u guys to try out my eq settings and let me know what u think because so far this is the best sound ive got, let me know what u think and weather or not im wide off the mark, im using sennheiser CX-95 in ear headphones:
![]() 5 80hz normal 3 220hz wide 3 80 hz wide 8 3 khz wide 10 9 khz wide bbe 10 mach3bass 5 3d surround 2 mp on st 2 the only thing im not sure about is weather or not it sounds better with or without the 3d surround and stereo enhance, plz advise, hopefully i dont need to get my ears checked ![]() all feedback greatly appreciated p.s. if anyone can tell me what font is being used in this image i would be very greatful/also where to download it http://www.cowoninside.com/xe/?document_srl=350240 |
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Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2009
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Question:
Is there any difference between EQs with the same relative levels, but all on a higher or lower level. Ex: 4 1 3 6 8 as opposed to 0 -3 -1 2 4 And is this the same with and without BBE+ effects? I ask this because I have sensitive hearing, and often times the lowest volume level is higher than I would like it to be. |
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Magnnus: it's hard to say without knowing exactly how the EQ works and what the number values mean. If the number values correspond to decibels, and the highest and lowest Hz bands are shelf (as opposed to parametric) EQs, then the two set of values you give would produce the same sound aside from the difference in gain. It'd also be the same with BBE effects.
I don't know what kind of headroom the S9 leaves for processing. I wonder if you can digitally clip the signal with high enough EQ values. ...but anyway I wouldn't sweat those kind of details, since setting the S9 EQ is already such an unscientific, taste-driven process. Even if the number values correspond to linear gain (%) as opposed to logarithmic (dB), the difference shouldn't be that drastic and you can always just correct by ear. If the lowest lows and the highest highs sound different, I'd change the first and last bands from "normal" to "wide" (if it's due to the fact that they're parametric and not fully covering those ranges) |
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jul 2008
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Shure E4C - was having a difficult time but this thread helped me find my way, so I'm giving back - Headphone 3 is nearly perfect just a little to much bass.. anyway
EQ flat BBE 9 Mach3 6 3D 0 MP On STE Off |
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Join Date: May 2009
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Magnnus, there is a difference in the settings. Think of a flat line (ideally) between 20Hz and 20kHz. When you alter the EQ (level up or down) you are grabbing a point on that line (at the specified frequency) and dragging it up or down. The tonal balance will be different between your settings.
Somebody asked earlier about the "wide" and "narrow" settings. These should be a Q (quality factor) setting. When you boost or cut at a frequency you change the response from a flat line to a parabola. The Q setting (wide or narrow) determines the shape of the parabola, wider or narrower. Sound quality is pretty subjective. I played around with the settings and prefer flat (no EQ) or just +1 or +2 at 80Hz. The level of detail from the S9 impresses me and I find that adding any of the BBE settings just takes the sound further away from my audiophile aspirations... ohh yeah, I'm using Sony "Studio Grade" MDREX85LP/B ear buds. They're relatively inexpensive but sound good. |
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Join Date: Jun 2009
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6 80hz wide
3 220hz wide 2 650 hz normal 7 3.0 khz wide 5 6.9 khz wide BBE 8 Mach3Bass 5 3D Surround 1 MP Enhance On Stereo Enhance 3 My fav EQ ![]() |
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Join Date: Jun 2009
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MAN how do some of you people put mach3bass and bbe at 10+? by then, the clicking sound gets so loud it hurts. Not to mention the bass would blow my ears off.. haha
I try to get good bass and treble at the same time. I listen to mostly of Hip Hop/R&B so BBE+ clears up and then the Hip Hop setting gives the music a good punch of lows and mids.. 80 Hz - +10 220 Hz - +5 780 Hz - +2 3.0 kHz - +2 13 kHz - +8 BBE - 3 Mach3Bass - 1 3D Surround - 1 MP Enhance +1 Stereo Enhance - Off I have Sony Ex71's they are pretty cheap but actually really good. Decent lows and mids. In indoors I listen around 3-5, outdoors 5-10. Yes, I try to not kill my ears.. |
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Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: San Francisco
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I broke my shure se210
![]() now I'm using the Ultimate ears studio 3... I'm aiming for either the super fi 5.0 pro or the 5.0 EB.. what do guys recommend... I wanna have full thumping bass... and yet get full detailed sound.. plz advise me... anyways.. I've been playing with the EQ for a long time now... and I think I got to a good EQ settings for the ULTIMATE EARS STUDIO 3.0... but you have to consider the whole setup for this to work: - NUFORCE icon mobile amplifier - UE studio 3.0 - COMPLY foam buds so here's the setup: 13khz....12... normal 4.1khz.... 3....normal 780hz.... -1.... narrow 500hz....1 0r 2....narrow 80hz.....7....wide for fuller bass BBE+....2 Mach....10 gives you full range bass.... you can use lower setting.. but I love bass :S 3D....3 MP ENHANCE....ON STE...3 I listen to all kinds of music... Drums n Bass, Dance, Techno, Pop, Classical, metal, heavy metal, gothic metal etc... newage you name it.. hope you guys like it ![]() |
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Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 179
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Electro & Dirty House for Headphones
80 Hz - +6 220 Hz - +6 780 Hz - +6 3.0 kHz - +6 13 kHz - +6 BBE - 5 Mach3Bass - 5 3D Surround - 5 MP Enhance - On Stereo Enhance - 3 Progressive House for Headphones 80 Hz - +6 220 Hz - +2 780 Hz - +2 3.0 kHz - +2 13 kHz - +6 BBE - 10 Mach3Bass - 5 3D Surround - 5 MP Enhance - On Stereo Enhance - 5 General House for Speakers 80 Hz - +6 220 Hz - +6 780 Hz - +6 3.0 kHz - +6 13 kHz - +6 BBE - 10 Mach3Bass - 5 3D Surround - 10 MP Enhance - On Stereo Enhance - 6 Last edited by lutscher; 08-17-2009 at 09:56.. |
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Join Date: Jan 2009
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I listen to a lot of rock, basically all sub-genres, and use the Ultimate Ears SF3 Studio.
105 Hz - - - - 5 - - - - Normal 220 Hz - - - - 5 - - - - Normal 780 Hz - - - - 2 - - - - Wide 3.0 kHz- - - - 4 - - - - Wide 13 kHz - - - - 3 - - - - Wide BBE: Off Mach3Bass: Off 3D Surround: Off MP Enhance: On Stereo Enhance: Off I use that mainly because it makes the music sound more free and acoustic, the UE have such a flat response that they sound good with almost any EQ setup, so I worked instead on improving the soundstage.
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Crooklyn, NY
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raising or lowering the Hz rating for each band will change the center position for that band, meaning that you're affecting frequencies that are either higher or lower than the default center when you increase or decrease the gain. this doesn't have any effect on the sound by itself, but it determines how changing the gain for each channel will affect the sound. changing the width for each band determines the range of frequencies affected by the slider. this is pretty advanced stuff - for just learning how different equalization changes your sound quality, I recommend keeping both of these settings at their default value. I honestly can't quantify the effects of BBE, as I'm just not sure what it does other than "make things sound good". Mach3Bass increases bass response, and 3D sound artificially increases the stereo spread and mimics surround sound, just like similar settings on two channel stereo systems (or many modern televisions). I hope that helps...but honestly, playing with the settings yourself is your best option, short of doing some heavy reading on EQ! Last edited by number5toad; 08-13-2009 at 22:19.. |
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