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Old 04-06-2007, 21:46   #46
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I think the right setting also depends on the kind of headphones/earphones in use, on top of that, there is the type of music being played.

Personally, I cant stand playing all my rock/pop songs on flat setting, since I find the player/earphone combo sound a bit muffled at the mid and upper range. But when it comes to classical, thats a complete different story.

I use a pair of super.fi 5 Pro and find the following setting optimum.

Rock/Pop songs and anything similar

Equilizer: 3-0-0-6-8
JE: BBE 2, Mach3Bass 1, 3D Surround 1, Stereo Enhance 1, MP Enhance 0, Pan 0.

Classical and anything else alike
Equilizer: Flat
JE: BBE 1, everything else on 0. (I rip my classical as FLAC).
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Old 04-06-2007, 22:52   #47
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My EQ settings are 8 4 1 -2 -3. All of the BBE effects destroy the S\NR, so I leave them off, except for stereo enhance, which is at 2. My headphones are Sony MDR 7509s, which are lean on the bottom and bright on top, which is why the EQ drops off like a cliff.

While I do think the D2 sounds better overall than my old iRiver iFP-999, said iRiver had an EQ band at 50hz, which is much more useful than the D2's minimum of 80hz. Note to Cowon: 80hz aint bass. My subwoofers go down to 15hz.

I listen to pure f----- metal, in fact I've got Arch Enemy on right this minute.

I suspect that Cowon realized most headphones won't go that low, especially ones for use without an amplifier, and certainly are nowhere near flat at that frequency anyway. 80 Hz would be much more reasonable.

Props to pure f-ing metal though.
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Old 04-07-2007, 03:15   #48
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V-Moda Vibes

emphasizing on the vocals
in my opinion it sounds a lot more clear and vibrant than flat
like what PhaseShiftDown said, it sounds muffled to me when flat

genres : rock/pop/classical/trance well truthfully anything I've thrown at it


Equalizer: -8 -10 -7 -2 -2
BBE: 1
Mach3Bass: 0
3D Surround: 1
Stereo Enhance: 2
MP Enhance: On
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Old 04-07-2007, 17:40   #49
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I suspect that Cowon realized most headphones won't go that low, especially ones for use without an amplifier, and certainly are nowhere near flat at that frequency anyway.
True, but I've tested the 7509s and they are still kicking down to about 28hz. Not quite the 5hz that Sony claims, but its still some deep bass, and the iRiver definitely gave them more punch down there.
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Old 04-19-2007, 10:23   #50
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lol, the whole topic makes no sense unless u write which headphones are u using it with

so for now:

sennheiser px100

eq: 0-1-3-2-0
bbe: 2
mach3bass: 0
3D Surround: 0
Stereo Enhance: 0
MP Enhance: On

but i'm still experimenting whith those settings

btw. my first post here
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Old 04-30-2007, 15:07   #51
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eq: 0-0-0-0-0
bbe: 1
mach3bass: 0
3D Surround: 0
Stereo Enhance: 0
MP Enhance: On

I listen to trance. On Sennheiser CX300, MX500 & HD485

I like it the most on my HD485s cause they're a little bass-heavy: this helps balance it out some.
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Old 05-04-2007, 01:29   #52
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Equalizer: NOR (0:0:0:0:0)
BBE: 0
Mach3Bass: 0
3D Surround: 0
Stereo Enhance: 0
MP Enhance: Disabled
Play Speed: 100%
JetEffect Preset: PO2 (0:0:0:0:0)

Give me pure and crisp sound, please!
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Old 05-04-2007, 10:09   #53
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lol, the whole topic makes no sense unless u write which headphones are u using it with

so for now:

sennheiser px100

eq: 0-1-3-2-0
bbe: 2
mach3bass: 0
3D Surround: 0
Stereo Enhance: 0
MP Enhance: On

but i'm still experimenting whith those settings

btw. my first post here

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Old 05-04-2007, 10:41   #54
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Headphones: Westone UM2

eq: 7-5-7-6-11

bbe: 4
mach3bass: 7
3D Surround: 2
Stereo Enhance: 5
MP Enhance: On

I listen to all types of music with concentration on 80's Rock!
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Old 05-06-2007, 16:44   #55
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sony ex-90's

eq: 12-0-0-1-7

bbe 1
machbase 0
3d surround: 0
stereo enhance 0
MP enhance: 0

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I suspect that Cowon realized most headphones won't go that low, especially ones for use without an amplifier, and certainly are nowhere near flat at that frequency anyway. 80 Hz would be much more reasonable.

Props to pure f-ing metal though.

oh i dont know. they must expect people who buy a £150 flash player to have some better than average earphones. my ex90's are flat to somewhere below 30hz, and i know thet are still responsive below 20

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Old 05-08-2007, 12:37   #56
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mx400

9 6 -3 3 9

bbe: 0
m3b: 6
3d surround: 0
stereo enchance: 0

My settings for rock and metal.
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Old 05-11-2007, 18:31   #57
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People cannot hear sounds with a frequency under 20Hz... And most audio equipment does go so low either. Ever been to a concert? There's a lot of bass to be heard and felt but the speakers there don't go lower than 30-40Hz... 20-50Hz frequencies are actually more felt by people than heard so they don't make such a difference on headphones.

Subwoofer going as near as 15Hz?
And ... ? You cannot hear the 15Hz sounds so what's the point? it's that your feel those frequencies by the rest of your body, but headphones work a bit differently, don't you think? They'll never vibrate with that kind of strength...

I have an iRiver with the lowest frequency lower than on D2, but that last one still manages to get more powerful bass. So it's not only about the height of the frequency. 80Hz is IMO quite reasonable (I personally would lower it to 70 but its near enough as it is)
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Old 05-11-2007, 19:03   #58
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The D2 definitely has a response below 80Hz, it's just the equlaiser won't let you adjust it.
I just tested it with some frequency sweeps, and I can hear it at 20 Hz. My headphones barely pick it up, and I can hear the individual vibrations of the membrane at that frequency, but it's definitely there.
And optimal response is reached way before 80. I'd say about 40 Hz, but that's really more to do with my earphones. (Hell, I was surprised thay can pick up 20 Hz at all. These drivers are only 9mm...)

Still, shame about the EQ not letting you adjust frequencies below 80 Hz.
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Old 05-12-2007, 04:18   #59
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Equalizer: USR (-4:-4:-4:0:4)
BBE: 2
Mach3Bass: 0
3D Surround: 0
Stereo Enhance: 0
MP Enhance: Disabled

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most of the time listening to classic or rammstein
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Old 05-12-2007, 12:52   #60
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People cannot hear sounds with a frequency under 20Hz... And most audio equipment does go so low either. Ever been to a concert? There's a lot of bass to be heard and felt but the speakers there don't go lower than 30-40Hz... 20-50Hz frequencies are actually more felt by people than heard so they don't make such a difference on headphones.
im sorry but thats rubbish. 50hz is felt more than its heard? you obviously having heard it then. my subs at home are flat to around 26hz, and by that i mean audible flat right down to below 30hz. if you cant hear frequencies in that range than its down to your ears or your speakers.

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I have an iRiver with the lowest frequency lower than on D2, but that last one still manages to get more powerful bass. So it's not only about the height of the frequency. 80Hz is IMO quite reasonable (I personally would lower it to 70 but its near enough as it is)
i have a rockboxed h10 and using the parametric eq to adjust frequencies in the 30hz region makes a huge difference.
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