Audio files in Mp3 format

lofgents · 06-21-2011, 15:07

I want to replace my ageing Sony Network HD Walkman and the audio quality of the Cowan X7 has me tempted. I have a large number of Audiobooks in Mp3 format, some of the files are between 3 and five minutes in length am I liable to here them continuously with the X7 my old Sony plays them perfectly and it would be a no go if the X7 cannot.

Thanks

Mark Coyle · 06-22-2011, 09:54

So what is your question? All media players can player MP3 files continuously. I'm not sure how we can help. Let us know.

cheers
Mark

lofgents · 06-22-2011, 12:24

Specifically its to do with Audiobooks in Mp3 format say each section or file is 5 minutes in length and the way it has been split is on timing rather than any natural chapter breaks, will there be a silence in between each file or will it play as though its all joined together and you would not know they were seperate files. As I said my old Sony plays them perfectly.

Thanks again and sorry if the question was not framed correctly

CraigGarnett · 06-22-2011, 14:31

I think the word you're looking for is gapless.
My live albums play back with just a tiny glitch between tracks, nothing you'd notice on speech thats for sure.

Craig

lofgents · 06-22-2011, 14:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by CraigGarnett

I think the word you're looking for is gapless.
My live albums play back with just a tiny glitch between tracks, nothing you'd notice on speech thats for sure.

Craig

Thanks for the reply I looked at the definition on wiki before posting and it sort of wasnt file specfic and referred more to cd etc so I didnt want to mislead anyone with this post as I have seen various opinions and reviews saying Cowon players do not support gapless playback that is what is confusing me.

Kizune · 06-22-2011, 15:15

But both the S9 and the J3 do support gapless without any problems.
I don't know about the other players.

lofgents · 06-22-2011, 15:18

Great thanks for your confirmation J3 a possibility for me.

CraigGarnett · 06-22-2011, 15:44

MP3'S aren't inherently gapless because they are a framed format, the workaround is for the encoder to write offsets into the tags when they are converted. Lame has done this automatically for a long time.

The player then uses this info to correctly overlap the files.

That said there's definitely a small glitch on my x7

Craig

gubba · 06-22-2011, 16:27

I haven't noticed any problems with gapless playback on my x7.

CraigGarnett · 06-22-2011, 16:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by gubba

I haven't noticed any problems with gapless playback on my x7.

Yeah you're right, it's a different problem.
I chose a double live album to check for gapless and it's playing in the wrong order, disc 1 track 1, disc 2 track 1, disc 1 track 2 disc 2 track 2.

No wonder I heard glitches.

Any ideas?

Craig

gubba · 06-23-2011, 04:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by CraigGarnett

Yeah you're right, it's a different problem.
I chose a double live album to check for gapless and it's playing in the wrong order, disc 1 track 1, disc 2 track 1, disc 1 track 2 disc 2 track 2.

No wonder I heard glitches.

Any ideas?

Craig

It will play the tracks by track# (track number). So if you have 2 tracks numbered '1' then it will play them first.

For double/triple albums I always have to re-order the track numbers (eg disk 1 has tracks 1-12, disk 2 has tracks 13-24 etc).

I use MediaMonkey to do all my ripping/tagging and it can do this re-ordering easily.

CraigGarnett · 06-23-2011, 10:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by gubba

It will play the tracks by track# (track number). So if you have 2 tracks numbered '1' then it will play them first.

For double/triple albums I always have to re-order the track numbers (eg disk 1 has tracks 1-12, disk 2 has tracks 13-24 etc).

I use MediaMonkey to do all my ripping/tagging and it can do this re-ordering easily.

Thanks Gubba,

So I guess it's ignoring the disc# tag

Craig

lofgents · 06-23-2011, 01:44

Thanks to you all for replying looks like I have the main 2 choices that I was looking for maybe the X7 because of the storage and seperate charger more reading required.

gubba · 06-23-2011, 11:13

I guess so - I have never used the disc# tag as it never worked on my old (non-Cowon) MP3 player, so I have always just re-number the entire double album !

lofgents · 06-23-2011, 12:06

The old Sonic Stage program despite its shortcomings is excellent for sorting out ID tags for Audiobooks and renaming albums which other programs cant find and its a free download. I will continue to use it for this purpose even if I have a new player.

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lofgents Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 26	Audio files in Mp3 format I want to replace my ageing Sony Network HD Walkman and the audio quality of the Cowan X7 has me tempted. I have a large number of Audiobooks in Mp3 format, some of the files are between 3 and five minutes in length am I liable to here them continuously with the X7 my old Sony plays them perfectly and it would be a no go if the X7 cannot. Thanks Last edited by lofgents; 06-21-2011 at 15:26..

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06-22-2011, 09:54	#2
Mark Coyle Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 124	So what is your question? All media players can player MP3 files continuously. I'm not sure how we can help. Let us know. cheers Mark

06-22-2011, 12:24	#3
lofgents Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 26	Specifically its to do with Audiobooks in Mp3 format say each section or file is 5 minutes in length and the way it has been split is on timing rather than any natural chapter breaks, will there be a silence in between each file or will it play as though its all joined together and you would not know they were seperate files. As I said my old Sony plays them perfectly. Thanks again and sorry if the question was not framed correctly

06-22-2011, 14:31	#4
CraigGarnett Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 24	I think the word you're looking for is gapless. My live albums play back with just a tiny glitch between tracks, nothing you'd notice on speech thats for sure. Craig

06-22-2011, 15:18	#7
lofgents Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 26	Great thanks for your confirmation J3 a possibility for me.

06-22-2011, 15:44	#8
CraigGarnett Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 24	MP3'S aren't inherently gapless because they are a framed format, the workaround is for the encoder to write offsets into the tags when they are converted. Lame has done this automatically for a long time. The player then uses this info to correctly overlap the files. That said there's definitely a small glitch on my x7 Craig

06-22-2011, 16:27	#9
gubba Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 45	I haven't noticed any problems with gapless playback on my x7.

06-23-2011, 01:44	#13
lofgents Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 26	Thanks to you all for replying looks like I have the main 2 choices that I was looking for maybe the X7 because of the storage and seperate charger more reading required.

06-23-2011, 11:13	#14
gubba Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 45	I guess so - I have never used the disc# tag as it never worked on my old (non-Cowon) MP3 player, so I have always just re-number the entire double album !

06-23-2011, 12:06	#15
lofgents Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 26	The old Sonic Stage program despite its shortcomings is excellent for sorting out ID tags for Audiobooks and renaming albums which other programs cant find and its a free download. I will continue to use it for this purpose even if I have a new player.