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Peaceful1 12-16-2011 07:23

how does a player (D2+) supports SDXC even before the Standard existed ?

Urne 12-16-2011 07:33

The D2+ supports SDHC cards. If the SDXC card follows the SD 3.0 Specification (which means it has the same "chip structure" as SDHC cards), the SDXC card will work in a SDHC reader, like the one in the D2+.

So the standard that the 128gb SDXC card uses is old. It's not the new SD 4.0 standard, I assume.

Peaceful1 12-16-2011 12:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urne (Post 324165)
The D2+ supports SDHC cards. If the SDXC card follows the SD 3.0 Specification (which means it has the same "chip structure" as SDHC cards), the SDXC card will work in a SDHC reader, like the one in the D2+.

So the standard that the 128gb SDXC card uses is old. It's not the new SD 4.0 standard, I assume.

as I know all new cards are UHS-I ( SD 3.0) & there isn't any UHS-II (SD 4.0 ) out in the market yet.
so if it is something about the version i guess it has to support all memories in the market for now
http://www.sdxc2.com/img/dual-row-pin-SDXC-cards.jpgUHS-II (SD 4.0 )

globiboulga 12-22-2011 21:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by nieh (Post 323912)
Has anyone tried it with the D3 yet?


FAT32 60GB of music working on the D3 - listening to it as I type. [thumbsup]


PS: as long as you format using FAT32 it works on all Android devices.

Peaceful1 12-27-2011 02:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by globiboulga (Post 324429)
FAT32 60GB of music working on the D3 - listening to it as I type. [thumbsup]


PS: as long as you format using FAT32 it works on all Android devices.

can you please test your memory card transfer speed with SD Tools & share the results.

marcusgi 12-29-2011 20:02

IMO, until the price of the 64gb microsdxc comes down to about $75 (more than half), it is a bad deal. When you can get a hard drive based mp3 player that holds double.

Urne 12-30-2011 06:16

It's definitely a lot of money for 64gb extra space. But I decided not to take the risk and wait for it to go down in price - There is a chance that Sandisk and other manufacturers will move on to the SD 4.0 specification with all their cards when they begin releasing microSDXC cards of higher capacity. That was at least reason enough for me to pay 155$ for it. :P

..And guess what arrived at my door today. ^^

http://i.imgur.com/55irR.jpg http://i.imgur.com/BKIis.jpg
Funnily the microSDXC card came with an SDHC adapter. But it worked great, just like it should. With the microSDXC card inserted into my laptop's SDHC reader I formatted the card to FAT32 using guiformat which razorblade has recommended at ABI. Worked just fine and I moved on to try transfering a few videos.

http://i.imgur.com/2Knu6.jpg
The J3 recognized the card and I was able to browse it just like I can with a normal microSDHC card. I have yet to try fill all 64gb up but will do later.

http://i.imgur.com/fDwqV.jpg http://i.imgur.com/BgKz4.jpg
I tried connecting the J3 to my laptop and as kp-j3 + others have said Windows won't recognize the microSDXC card now. Tells me that I need to format it - not very surprising. Fedora (Linux) on the other hand reads the microSDXC card just fine from the J3's microSDHC reader. I will probably use Fedora to transfer files to the card from now on. Especially since it took me 30 minutes to get the damn card out of the included SDHC adapter. I hope I'll never need to use that thing again. >:-(

Anyway, looking forward to fill this thing up with my video library. It's either that or going FLAC with all my music. Haven't quite decided yet but I think I will test how well videos work when played from external memory. :)

kp-j3 12-30-2011 13:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by marcusgi (Post 324647)
IMO, until the price of the 64gb microsdxc comes down to about $75 (more than half), it is a bad deal. When you can get a hard drive based mp3 player that holds double.


The reason I started with (and stuck to) flash based players is that I used to use them on my motorcycle. But over the years I've managed to drop all my players on a semi-constant basis and figure I'd trash a hard drive based one in a heartbeat.

Capacity is extremely important to me, so I've already got a d2+ (although it doesn't sound as good to my ears as the j3 or iaudio7s) and a 128gb regular SD card on the way. The 64gb regular card in the d2+ exhibits the same weird 28.5gb windows behavior from what I've seen.

Neither are cheap, but I'll use the other cards in other places. So it was more like, buy another 32gig micro card, or try and push the envelope and reuse my old one for something else. The extra 3000 (j3) or 6000 (d2+) songs will be worth it to me, and will actually minimize write cycles & card swaps as I won't be reloading that often.

TheDarkSide 12-30-2011 14:32

The 128gb "regular" card is really a SDXC card,...it's just that the pins have yet to be updated. That why we can still get away with using them, thank goodness.

nieh 12-31-2011 09:35

I don't know if this is just me, or if it has to be the case for everyone, but I was unable to copy more than ~30GB to it when my J3 was in MSC mode (kept getting error 0x80070057), but when I switched to MTP mode it worked fine.

Kizune 12-31-2011 09:55

http://www.nokiausers.net/forum/noki...ing-files.html

"i got a workaround.

all i did was perform a scandisk having the "scan for and attempt recovery of bad sector" enabled on my memory card."

nieh 12-31-2011 12:35

I tried that, it's still not working in MSC mode. And I realized after my last post that the tags were all screwed up after I dragged and dropped in MTP mode.

nieh 12-31-2011 12:59

I tried syncing my files to the external thing with MTP mode instead of dragging and dropping and I'm having this issue again:
http://iaudiophile.net/forums/showthread.php?t=37104

I haven't experienced it since the initial post since I stopped syncing and started dragging and dropping everything, but now that I'm trying to sync again it's come back.

globiboulga 12-31-2011 16:37

[QUOTE=Urne;324654]It's definitely a lot of money for 64gb extra space. But I decided not to take the risk and wait for it to go down in priceQUOTE]

I think this is the key point here: I doubt 64gb cards with SD3.0 specifications will be made for long. I took the plunge because I also have an Android tablet and I can swap between the two. It's also great to have a few GB around to add that new album...

globiboulga 12-31-2011 17:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peaceful1 (Post 324547)
can you please test your memory card transfer speed with SD Tools & share the results.

Writing Speed: 5.4mb/s
Read Speed:13.4mb/s

I have a class 4 in my SGSII that has read 6mb/s and write 21mb/s for comparison. Not too shabby and definitively highly usable to read FLAC files.


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