Do i Have a transfer problem?

[ur14]

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/9495/hdtunebenchmarkcowons9zm9.png

Should it be like this? It's quite fast topping at 11mb/s but should it start so low?
I haven't formatted my Cowon S9 yet, so it's left at the Company defaults.

Oh yeah, also what are the numbers that Cowon Specifies?

HDtune is free so if you want to try this yourself, http://www.hdtune.com/

[Prydeless]

My S9's transfer speed usually starts around 2MB and tops at 5MB. The thing with HDTune, from my experience is that it won't give you real world usage info. I have a couple of other external drives connected via USB and eSATA and they never reach maximum for more than a few seconds. This could be affected by my chipset drivers or because I'm using Vista.

[Loba]

the highest i seen is 5-6mb/s T the lowest i seen is LESS than 1 mb/s on cowon s9. seriously, this sucks since it sinces to imply s9 is still using usb 1.1 controllers or smthing.

on the website, it says usb 2.0 high speed. orly.

[Muskstick]

the highest i seen is 5-6mb/s T the lowest i seen is LESS than 1 mb/s on cowon s9. seriously, this sucks since it sinces to imply s9 is still using usb 1.1 controllers or smthing.

on the website, it says usb 2.0 high speed. orly.

Firstly USB 1.1 is only rated to 12Mb/s so around 1.5 MB/s. If you're getting 5-6MB/s then your using USB 2.0 which can technically get up to 60MB/s but thats not likely to happen.

Secondly are you using the usb ports on the front of your computer or the back, because quite often the ones on the front can be connected to a subpar controller, try plugging it into another port and checking your speed then.

USB 2.0 has been around for almost a decade, not a chance in hell a premium item like the S9 would be using 1.1 controllers.

Bring on USB 3.0 already.

[xenarchi]

USB 2.0 still sucks

[Muskstick]

USB 2.0 still sucks

Seconded.

[Loba]

Firstly USB 1.1 is only rated to 12Mb/s so around 1.5 MB/s. If you're getting 5-6MB/s then your using USB 2.0 which can technically get up to 60MB/s but thats not likely to happen.

Secondly are you using the usb ports on the front of your computer or the back, because quite often the ones on the front can be connected to a subpar controller, try plugging it into another port and checking your speed then.

USB 2.0 has been around for almost a decade, not a chance in hell a premium item like the S9 would be using 1.1 controllers.

Bring on USB 3.0 already.
I tried on both laptop and desktop BACK ports.

Well, my cowon A3 which uses 1.1 controllers transfer faster than a supposely using usb 2.0 controllers cowon s9.

[Muskstick]

I tried on both laptop and desktop BACK ports.

Well, my cowon A3 which uses 1.1 controllers transfer faster than a supposely using usb 2.0 controllers cowon s9.

Weird, mines still in the post so I can't confirm the speeds im getting but I havent heard of anyone else having these problems, might be a problem with your S9, otherwise how old is your computer and laptop? Perhaps they only have 1.1 controllers as well.

[Waveblade]

Mp3/PMP players aren't going to have the faster controllers because frankly they don't "need" them

[Muskstick]

I'd expect more than 1.1 speeds though...especially for the price we're all paying for them. 30gig takes a while to transfer at 1.5MB/s

[Houle_Marauder]

It's been my general experience that FAT32 drives write data much slower than NTFS--maybe that has something to do with it.

[fromatoz]

transfer speed is kinda first time (new owner) issue, isn't it? once we have our big lot transferred, it won't bother us anymore. ;)

[34.50]

Maybe try switching to MTP or MSC, the one you are not using..

[javi0084]

One thing you can try is when you plug in your PMP, right click on the drive and go to Properties. Go to the Hardware tab and click on the Cowon drive (it might have the name of the drive manufacturer as the name) then click Properties. Click on the Policies tab and select the option that gives the most performance. You will be risking data loss if you unplug the PMP in the middle of a transfer or if you lose power.

[yoosanlicious]

are you sure that HD tune is good to test flash memory?
i mean flash and hard disk are not the same..

maybe you should look at this
http://www.flashmemorytoolkit.com/

[Headcased]

You want be extremely carful with software like this. Every time you write to your s9 flash you degrade it slightly. Running software like this will degrade the life time of your s9 flash. This is also the reason that you should never run any disk defragging software on it.

I once preformed a test setting a flash drive to windows swap and with a few minutes the device started to fail. Now greatened this was writing thousand of times to a flash device but it also puts it in perspective how delicate flash is (in terms of write cycles.).

I also don’t like the look of that flash tool kit (looks like it was knocked up in visual basic). Also the site pose no technical of even basic things about flash. So I guess my point is that flash is not like a hard drive and should be treated with respect in order to prolong it life cycle.

[Houle_Marauder]

You want be extremely carful with software like this. Every time you write to your s9 flash you degrade it slightly. Running software like this will degrade the life time of your s9 flash. This is also the reason that you should never run any disk defragging software on it.

I once preformed a test setting a flash drive to windows swap and with a few minutes the device started to fail. Now greatened this was writing thousand of times to a flash device but it also puts it in perspective how delicate flash is (in terms of write cycles.).

I also don’t like the look of that flash tool kit (looks like it was knocked up in visual basic). Also the site pose no technical of even basic things about flash. So I guess my point is that flash is not like a hard drive and should be treated with respect in order to prolong it life cycle.

well, flash drives DO have limited write cycles, but microsoft and third parties predicted a flash drive used solely for readyboost would last around 10 years, which is a LOT of write cycles. I can't imagine that a test like this would have made it fail for that reason--but perhaps for some other reason. something else to consider is the fact that the cheaper flash drives (sonys have a good track record, but even PNY drives tend to fail quickly) often spontaneously stop working.

[Headcased]

Were not talking about ready boost here, its not secret that a windows machine is writing to hard drive all the bloody time. I used this as a perspective to illustrate that using these types of software will in no doubt hider the operating cycle of a nand flash. This was a quality flash made by Samsung not sure which variant it was (MLC/SLC) but nether the less there’s a big difference between ready boost and swap (windows virtual memory).

Also enabling drive performance aka drive caching is currently not a good idea for flash drives as it will seriously degrade you s9 flash.

Also a note that safely remove hardware tool (on the task bar) is meant exactly for this purpose that its meant to remove device which have drive caching enabled. Drive caching on flash media is not recommended and exactly the reason why is disabled by default.

[Loba]

One thing you can try is when you plug in your PMP, right click on the drive and go to Properties. Go to the Hardware tab and click on the Cowon drive (it might have the name of the drive manufacturer as the name) then click Properties. Click on the Policies tab and select the option that gives the most performance. You will be risking data loss if you unplug the PMP in the middle of a transfer or if you lose power.
Just tried it to transfer a 700mb file which has an increment of speed from 1 mb/s which tops off at around 5.4mb/s. It does hit overall faster average speed but neverthless, ceiling is 5+mb/s.

Both are definitely usb2.0 controllers.