where to get the x5 in australia?

[luuk]

hey,
I thought I alreade post a new topic, but I guess it didn't came trough(the site is really slow).
A friend of mine lives in australia. Now I want the x5 as soon as possible, but also don't want to pay to much. is there a webshop in australia that delivers the x5 30 gb right now?
or can my friend import it from korea or something?
if you have a link to a webshop in australia/korea, please post it.
thanks in advance,
luuk
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[Fido]

Your friend lives in australia? Then where do you live? Australia normally gets electronics long after the rest of the world and at inflated prices. If you live out of australia it would be best for you to buy it somewhere else and ship it to him as a gift.

[tarepanda]

Australia normally gets electronics long after the rest of the world and at inflated prices.
I agree, American price*2 some times, what a shame.

Da PandA

[itou]

I made some inquieries in Feb @ Cowon and Iaudio to know how to get the X5 in Sydney. According to their answer, it doesn't look like Australia is one of their priority... at all.:/
Fido is definitely right, if your friend doesn't want to wait for a couple of years. I get mine sent to Sydney by a friend from the states.

[korinengell]

Yep we get fooked downunder.

I've been looking for a US website that ships internationally for months now (sorry let me correct: ships to Australia. Suntec internationsl shipping pah!). I still haven't found any yet and my days left here are ticking down fast. I might have to buy an M3 :(

[sexyleb]

set up a PO-box in america then ship the X5 to that PO-box. Have all mail in the PO-box sent to your address as a gift. Cost maybe $50AUS extra....

[korinengell]

see my thread about shipping from the US here:
http://iaudiophile.net/forums/viewtopic.php?id=1573
It ain't easy since the whole Sept 11 crap...

The problem would be trying to set up a PO box in the USA from OZ.

[Sparky]

Has anyone contacted JNC? They're the ones who imported and distributed the M3, so perhaps they might know something about the X5...

It seems strange that there is no news here in OZ about the X5, especially since the M3 seems to be available in most online stores and a whole heap of walk-in stores, including some of the major retailers like Harvey Norman and Bing Lee...

And while I'm at it - what the F#@K is the point of a Free Trade Agreement with the US if we can't even get a bloody MP3 player shipped over here!!! ARRRGGHHH!!!

[RANT OVER]

[korinengell]

Has anyone contacted JNC? They're the ones who imported and distributed the M3, so perhaps they might know something about the X5...

It seems strange that there is no news here in OZ about the X5, especially since the M3 seems to be available in most online stores and a whole heap of walk-in stores, including some of the major retailers like Harvey Norman and Bing Lee...

And while I'm at it - what the F#@K is the point of a Free Trade Agreement with the US if we can't even get a bloody MP3 player shipped over here!!! ARRRGGHHH!!!

[RANT OVER]

From http://www.jnc-digital.com.au/company.html :
Datum Tech Pty Ltd trading as JNC Digital is a subsidiary of Datum Networks Corporation Ltd, which is the technology arm of the Jebsen Group, a highly diversified and multinational conglomerate formed since 1895 emanating from Denmark.

By the sounds of that they might own Cowon as well or at least are the ditributers for them in Oz but they make no mention of Cowon or iAudio on their website...

email them here: info@datum-jebsen.com.au

[Fido]

They're just distributers.

[luuk]

Thanks you guys, I decided to buy the x5 in Holland(that's where I live, I should get it on monday or tuesday). However I now have to live on the street and ask everyone who passes me to give me some money to survive. It's so expensive, I could almost buy an car for that price. But I guess(HOPE) it's all worth it. It's more then 20 percent more expensive in holland then in America, and they don't have any case, so I have to wait for that, but the dockingstation (not the minidock/subpack but the real dock) is free. SWEET :D!
My schedule for the weekend:
Working and converting,
got more then 200 cd's to convert, pff.
I will let you'll know my experiences with the x5. hopefully the review is coming soon (from eXity or austinv) 'cause the week is already over!
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[korinengell]

I've emailed www.ecost.com to find out if the ship to australia. It looks like they have the X5 in stock. They say they ship internationally... fingers crossed.

[korinengell]

Unfortunately we do not distribute I-Audio products we have only ever
distributed the I-Audio M3 under special dealing where the product was
branded under JNC.

At this stage I we are unable to help you, may I suggest you contact a
retailer in Sydney know as M-Station, they usually carry all I-Audio
Products.

So I've emailed www.mStation.com.au as well...let see what they say.

[Sparky]

So I wonder who imports/distributes iAudio in Australia then? mStation must be getting them from somewhere... time to investigate! **puts on super-slueth hat and whips out magnifying glass**

[Sparky]

What I can't understand is why online stores won't ship to Australia when there isn't anyone selling the X5 here anyway... I mean, it's not as if it's going to be cutting into any local distributor profits or anything - wasn't that the reason that Suntec gave for not being able to ship iAudio products?

[Sparky]

Ok... I've emailed:

http://www.mstation.com.au/
http://www.mp4store.com.au/
http://www.gadgets.com.au/
http://www.mp3direct.com.au/
http://www.minidisc.com.au/

I asked them all if they had any plans to sell the X5 and if not if they could put me in touch with any distributors or resellers who might be able to help us out. Minidisc.com.au had a "Request a Product" feature so I naturally made a request... now we play the waiting game!

[korinengell]

What I can't understand is why online stores won't ship to Australia when there isn't anyone selling the X5 here anyway... I mean, it's not as if it's going to be cutting into any local distributor profits or anything - wasn't that the reason that Suntec gave for not being able to ship iAudio products?

Because of other stupid policies... just like Suntec's I guess. Someone in the US will ship here, the only thing I care about is whether I can find a place and have it delivered before June 20.

Good work on the email sparks.

[korinengell]

we will confirmed to release iAUDIO X5 next week
please check our website for more details soon thanks

Coooooooool. I wonder how much they are going to try and rip us off? :)

[Sparky]

How are you
we will release this product very vvery soon .. .
Please check our website for more details next week
thanks
Andrew
mStation Digital Webstore.

Dear Stephen,
Thank you for your email.
Currently we are waiting for our distributor to bring the X5 in. At this stage we are unsure of the exact date.

If you have any further questions please feel free to reply

Enjoy our site and feel free to reply with any feedback, comments or any further questions

Regards,
Wing Li
Minidisc Australia

[Sparky]

Hi Stephen,

Further to our discussion, I have made some more enquiries, and it seems likely that I will have the X5 for sale within the fortnight. The delivery time is TBA, but please check back with me over the next few weeks, and I will keep you updated.

Regards,
Pat
Sales Manager
MP4Store

[korinengell]

Well the 20GB M3 you can pick up for $385 AUD (with cradle)

I reckon they are going to slap us with $450 for the X5 20GB and at least $500 for the X5 30GB. I'm sure we are still better getting it from the US if we can.

[Sparky]

I agree. However, if something goes wrong with it (god forbid) your warranty will only be valid in the US and you'll have to go through the hassle of sending it back and dealing with people on the other side of the world who probably don't give a damn about you after they've got your money...

I'd much prefer to pay a little extra to not have to worry about anything like that. Who knows, perhaps some walk-in stores might pick it up and then you can go in and bargain with them... I'm going to wait and see - another few weeks won't kill me....

[korinengell]

No difference for me really...I'm heading over to europe for 12+ months so if something goes wrong i either need to send it back here or back to the usa... It would probaby be better to buy it over in europe but for $700 i think not!

[Sparky]

Ok... In your case I see the point, but for everyone else its a real pain in the ass...

[Sparky]

More replies...

Hi Stephen,

THe only importer of iAudio is our supplier and he is working on importing
the X5. I have no exact date yet but will let you know once it is arrived.

Regards,
Raymond
Gadgets.com.au



Hello

Re iAuudio X5
We are currently in talks of carrying this product, however do not have an outcome as yet.
Please check our website for regular updates.

Regards,
mp3DIRECT Customer Service

So I think we can safely assume that the X5 WILL BE COMING TO AUSTRALIA!!! The only questions reamaining are: how soon and how much???

[korinengell]

I'm really starting to cut this a bit close for my liking. I just wish places like bloody ecost and suntec would reply to emails!

[Darkroom]

I can't see the problem... It's not like there is a plane crashing just because you are not getting personal service, and people dying.

[xfive]

Didn't get that???

[korinengell]

Always hope for you yet Darkroom.

@xfive: personal joke, never mind.

[Darkroom]

Just passing back his own argument from
http://iaudiophile.net/forums/viewtopic.php?id=1951&p=1

[Sparky]

Dear Stephen,

We have been given word that the X5 is just about available. We are in dealings with the distributor so it shouldn’t be too much longer. They only have the 20GB version and it looks like it might be around the $600 mark.

I will let you know the outcome.

If you have any further questions please feel free to reply

Enjoy our site and feel free to reply with any feedback, comments or any further questions

Regards

Wing Li

Minidisc Australia

[Sparky]

Oh... it looks like Wing beat me to it... whoops!

I think it would be a good idea to let the distributor know that if the RRP is going to be around $600 then they won't be doing much distributing of the X5. It's just too expensive - at that price people will find it much cheaper to ship one in from America, or buy an M3 , or even worse CONSIDER BUYING AN iPOD!!! And this is coming from someone who has been IN LOVE with the X5 for the last 6 months!

[Sefu]

Yep Im with you. The competitor product, iRiver H320 is $449 and even the 40GB H340 is cheaper than it. I will see what I can do and hopefully can bust their balls.

[Sparky]

hehehe... go WING!!!

[oVerCaffeinated]

I hope the 60Gb isn't a total ripoff. $650, the same as the iPod, would be good.

[korinengell]

Geezus christ $600 for the base model! We're getting as fooked on pricing as Europe.

[korinengell]

http://www.mstation.com.au/ms/products/?Brand=17&show=Brand

20GB X5 $649 FARKN HELL!

[oVerCaffeinated]

That's crazy, although it is a video player aswell and the 20Gb iRiver video player is the same price. I think I'm going to wait for the M5, if it even exists.

[Tanthalas]

Geezus christ $600 for the base model! We're getting as fooked on pricing as Europe.

$600 AUD = £249.659 GBP

Err....it's cheaper than we're getting them...

[Yasakani]

the iRiver H320 is only $499 at JB Hi-Fi last time i looked...
hopefully the price of X5 20GB will drop to about this price, they have same features and capabilities... and hopefully the 30GB wouldn't be too high either...

[korinengell]

Geezus christ $600 for the base model! We're getting as fooked on pricing as Europe.

$600 AUD = £249.659 GBP

Err....it's cheaper than we're getting them...

NOT!

Did you see this site Tanthalas? http://www.advancedmp3players.co.uk/shop/product_info.php?products_id=624&usersessid=670c34ca59b45aaa71be8c4fc40a7c9e
£249 GBP for the 20 GB.

I think the main difference (somehow providing them with the excuse to screw us on pricing) is that they seem to be including the remote and carrying case as standard if you check this page:
http://www.mstation.com.au/ms/products/?id=398&show=Content#details

No cradle though.

I've emailed mstation to confirm this is.

[Sparky]

$650?!?!?! Tell him he's dreaming....

[Sparky]

korinengell, with these ridiculous prices I'm starting to come around to your idea of buying the X5 from America... have you had any replies from any online retailers yet (i.e. ecost) as to whether they ship to Oz?

Might have to start checking out eBay too... can't believe it has come to this... $650, bah!

[korinengell]

I got this product from local dealer and theys how much they sell to me. .
If you can import directly from USA please do. otherwise we provide local warranty .
yes remote control in included. I will find out what exactly include din the package tomorrow and I will let u know

I really still can't justify a $200 price difference for a remote, local warranty and a crappy vinyl carry case.

I expect the 30GB will hit the $799 AUD as well, which is the one I really want. I looked at the previous price point for the 40GB M3 and it was $799 before the big price cut. Now it's like $579 or something (the 20GB is only $385 which is much more reasonable!!!). Man... can you imagine the 60GB version coming out at like $1000+ AUD? Hooly Begebes!

I'm thinking of the worst case scenario where I can justify paying this much. Guaranteed if I can get it from the USA, i'll gladly waive the remote, local warranty and case!

Still haven't received anything back from USA sellers.

[Yasakani]

so about how long did it take for the M3 to drop from $799 (when it first came out) to $579?
Was it recently, when the iP0ds had their prices dropped??

[Sefu]

I agree with you all.
As mStation stated, we are buying stock from the distributor at high prices so its not the stores to blame.
From a store point a view I don't see any stores selling many of these especially if they are selling iRiver and *grit teeth* iPod, and lets face it just about all stores that sell the X5 will have these products. Why would a customer purchase a X5 while the 40GB iRiver H340 is $100 cheaper! The iRiver has just about the same functions, the size and other little functions cannot justify $100 higher price tag + less 20GB storage.

I contacted our rep with this issue, they acknowledged the pricing problem and he mentioned that they cannot make any pricing changes without the support of HQ. They are currently in negotiating with them to bring the price down.
So now the fault seems to lie with Cowon HQ.

Never the less, I have ordered a small amount of X5 in which should arrive tomorrow or early next week.
We are selling them for $639 + delivery, but to try to help out the Aussie boys as much as possible I can do $599 with free delivery, no where as good as the iRiver H320 but its a start
http://www.minidisc.com.au/product_info.php?cPath=33_53&products_id=641

If you want to take up the offer send me a pm or email us as salesATminidisc.com.au

Edit: I forgot to mention, our website package list is going by what is listed on the US site. I'm only sure of the package contents once I see it, so I will let you guys know when it comes in

[korinengell]

Wow, that is awesome Sefu, thanks!

Are you able to get in the 30GB model yet?

[Sefu]

Not yet unfortunately. They have pricing but no ETA.
Its about $50 more than the 20GB version

[Sparky]

Thanks for your help Wing! I really can't understand the mentality of the distributors in setting the price so high... perhaps they are they trying to clear out stock of other players like the M3 before they drop the price? Is there any reason for a $260 price difference between the US and Australia other than sheer greed? I mean, this is a really, really good player that could become very popular if it had a reasonable price and some good targeted marketing (not on an iPod scale of course)...

korinengell: have you tried pcmall.com (http://www.pcmall.com/pcmall/shop/detail.asp?dpno=563490&store=pcmall&source=pwbfroogle&adcampaign=email,pwbfroogle&wt.mc_id=pwbfroogle)? They say they accept international orders (but you have to call by phone to order and pay by wire transfer...) It might be a long shot, but there aren't many options left for you by the sounds of things...

As for me, I'm just going to wait - perhaps a few years interest on $650 might give me enough money to purchase this damn thing....

[korinengell]

Well check out my maths on the 20GB:

Sefu's extremely generous offer of $599 AUD delivered.
- includes remote
- includes case
- AUS wattanty
USA retail price of $299 USD + $30(est) USD delivery. ~$431 AUD
- no remote
- no case
- USA warranty

Now there are 2 different scenarios to adjust these prices.

1 - leaving the country within 4 weeks like I am doing, in which case you get 10% GST back. This makes the player ~ $539 AUD, which means that for all the extra gear you are actually only paying a little over $100 AUD. Still not what I'd consider cheap, but I reckon that is a fair cop. One that I would be willing to pay. Unfortunately the local warranty is useless for me because I will be away ~12 months so I have to ship it back here if anything went wrong.

2 - you are sticking around here and cant get the 10% rebate but you do get a local warranty that actually means something. However this means you are paying more like $160-170 for all the extra gear/bonuses. That is a bit tough to swallow, but certainly a bit better when you put it all into perspective...

Did I manage to convince anyone?

[korinengell]

There is no reason why the price is this high, I think it should be at least $150 cheaper and I have stated to this to the distributor. I have boldly stated that there will be very little sales at this price. So hopefully they can negotiate with Cowon a better deal.

Sefu... will you marry me?

[xfive]

I'm sure the price is gonna go down since you've boldly stated it's high. Get real, or marry each other or whatever!

[Sparky]

Hopefully someone will at Cowon will listen to these complaints.

I'm sure the price is gonna go down since you've boldly stated it's high. Get real, or marry each other or whatever!

Sefu runs an online retail store, so if Cowon is going to listen to anyone, it will be someone like Sefu.

Did I manage to convince anyone?

Sorry. Nope. I cannot justify spending over $500 on an MP3 player. I can barely justify spending more than $400. LOL.

[Anakha]

I thought I was doing you guys a favor by giving you some info on the situation...

You are, and thank you for doing so. Just ignore xfive. :)

[jas0nt]

thanks for the reply Sefu. i just signed up so i can participate in this discussion.

i tried emailing those buggers at JNC Australia though they seem to be either ignorning me or the email didn't go through (which i doubt very much). could you tell me whether there are new distributors for iAudio in Australia?

and an other thing... i'm soon going to Hong Kong later this year and i'll probably be getting an MP3 player (most likely the X5). will it be covered by the Australian distributor in case the player requires repairs?

in fact, seeing as how you sell MP3 players daily, would you happen to know what manufacturers (ipod, creative, apple, etc) do allow warranty in Australia if purchased overseas?

frankly, i'm rather worried about buying electronics overseas without an Australian dealer to send it to if i need service. sending gadgets back to asia + waiting a few months with the risk of it getting stolen doesn't appeal to me.

i think i speak on behalf of all aussies wanting the x5 in this thread, we all appreciate your help :D. if the player was around $500 i wouldn't hesitate buying it from your online shop, but $600 is too much. there are many other alternatives which are just/nearly as good (iRiver H320, iPod Photo, that new Zen Neeon/Micro photo...)

[korinengell]

i tried emailing those buggers at JNC Australia though they seem to be either ignorning me or the email didn't go through (which i doubt very much). could you tell me whether there are new distributors for iAudio in Australia?


JNC were distributing the M3 under a limited circumstance where it was branded with JNC and not iAudio. Sounds like a very strange deal to me...(why would you let someone else claim rights over your product? They must have had a pretty healthy profit margin to allow that). Anyways, now that iAudio have proper distributers in Australia and can keep their name on the product, I highly doubt any of their products will be distributed through JNC again.

[chic]

Yeah i echo jasOnt.. given the globalisation of consumer electronics thru e-commerce and online retailers like ebay and amazon, shouldn't companies be looking at international warranties that are not restricted to the geographical location where u purchased the product? Seems kinda stupid that we always talk abt the globalisation of the economy and yet manufacturers can't even offer geographical-agnostic post-sales support n warranties?

[korinengell]

Yeah i echo jasOnt.. given the globalisation of consumer electronics thru e-commerce and online retailers like ebay and amazon, shouldn't companies be looking at international warranties that are not restricted to the geographical location where u purchased the product? Seems kinda stupid that we always talk abt the globalisation of the economy and yet manufacturers can't even offer geographical-agnostic post-sales support n warranties?

Some do, but certainly not enough. You have a very good point though. For some reason it seems that this is a slow message to get through to global companies that manufacture these kinds of consumer products. When you have this kind of disparity of pricing between the USA and pretty much everywhere else in the world, I think it makes it very difficult to offer this kind of guarantee. Guarding your profit margin probably takes priority over these kinds of international warranties and the like and their estimation of increased sales due to it.

Just my take on the matter...I'm no economist.

[Sefu]

Amazon dont ship electronics overseas. Over etailers that do state its at the customers risk.
eBay, well this is another channel where people get sucked into.

Just my opinion, but if there were a worldwide warranty it would not balance the economy. People will be purchasing overseas which is cheaper and servicing units locally which would cost the australian economy money. So it just does not balance.
Also, legally all electronics are meant to be passed with a C-Tick in Australia. To get a C-Tick you need the test documentations of the product and its highly unlikely the manufacturers would give this out.
I guess what I am saying is that it is far more complicated then it sounds :(

[jas0nt]

Anyways, now that iAudio have proper distributers in Australia

do you happen to know who?

[korinengell]

Anyways, now that iAudio have proper distributers in Australia

do you happen to know who?

No... sefu (aka www.minidisc.com.au) would be a better person to ask... otherwise ask the guys at www.mStation.com.au, but sefu's been very helpful so far for us.

[auryn]

$629 from those two sites. What a rort. Who would buy one at that price? It would need to be around $450-500 to compete with the ipods and irivers.

[jas0nt]

No... sefu (aka www.minidisc.com.au) would be a better person to ask... otherwise ask the guys at www.mStation.com.au, but sefu's been very helpful so far for us.

Dear Jason,

Haldex Pty Ltd currently handle iAudio.

Their website is www.haldex.com.au

Regards

Wing Li

Minidisc Australia


site looks like utter crap and is poorly designed. :/

[Sparky]

Hmmm... I live two suburbs away from Haldex. Maybe I should pop over there and see if I can get some information out of them...

It says that their site is under development, so I'll give them the benifit of doubt re: the crapness of their layout.

[kadau]

Guys, if you want to order from the States, have a look at http://www.shopthestates.com/
I haven't personally used them, but there is a long thread about them on Whirlpool & they seem to be good. I just bought an M3, since i couldn't wait any more... plus im a poor student & knew the new model would be highly priced for some time.

[Sefu]

Bad news.
It does not come with a remote, cradle or carry case. We just received stock this morning and I pulled one apart and it comes with the same accessories as the US model.

[korinengell]

Bad news.
It does not come with a remote, cradle or carry case. We just received stock this morning and I pulled one apart and it comes with the same accessories as the US model.

That is... very disappointing :(

[Yasakani]

So when will those Aussie sites have any 30GB X5's in stock?
I'm afraid to even ask how much they would cost in AUD.
But that's the model I really really want.

[Sefu]

30GB and 60GB are not yet available in Aus, there is currently no ETA either.
The 30GB is around $50 more, so around $679 - $699AUD

[Yasakani]

hmmm... on minidisc.com.au
H340 40GB + cradle --> $549.00AUD
X5 20GB --> $629.00AUD
:(

[oVerCaffeinated]

X5 20Gb just dropped down to $599. Still far from competitive but if the trend continues we might have fairly priced player on our hands :)

[Yasakani]

YAY!! :D
Now for 30GB X5 to come out and start dropping!

[Sparky]

Hmmm... I wonder who is absorbing the cost of this price drop? Cowon, Haldex (wholesaler), or the retail stores? If it's the latter, I commend them for the effort. If it's either of the former two, they need to get serious... A $30 price drop isn't going to send people flooding into the stores to buy this thing. It needs to be sub $500 for anyone to even consider it over the competition. If they're going to price it this high, the least they could do is include the cradle and a carry-case....

I hope they continue to lower the price though... If it continues to drop a this rate, I might be able to afford it by Christmas (by then of course, there'll be an even better and more expensive X5 available... BAH! :D )

[sexyleb]

I am going overseas on december 3 so i can wait a while. I just don't want to ;P

[Sparky]

Can you buy me an X5 while you're over there? Hahah... :(

[sougen]

Guys, if you want to order from the States, have a look at http://www.shopthestates.com/
I haven't personally used them, but there is a long thread about them on Whirlpool & they seem to be good. I just bought an M3, since i couldn't wait any more... plus im a poor student & knew the new model would be highly priced for some time.

Thanks for the info! I really wanted the X5 but seeing the prices in Australia is more than enough to make me cry :(
I've just ordered my 30gb X5 using shopthestates facilities. I'm guessing it'll be around $600 AUD including express shipping and customs/duty tax that I'll no doubt be charged...
I'll let you guys know how it goes if you're interested.

[Yasakani]

So how much would you be paying all up for shipping etc?
ie. Approx ---> $600 minus X530GB

[sougen]

So how much would you be paying all up for shipping etc?
ie. Approx ---> $600 minus X530GB

X5 30 - $350 USD
2 Day shipping from amazon to shopthestates - $12 USD
Express shipping from shopthestates to Aust ~ $30 USD (estimate)
Customs Duty + Tax ~ $100 AUD (estimate)

You can also get free shipping from amazon to shopthestates if you wanted to, but it takes like a week to get delivered.

[Yasakani]

Woah! Customs duty and tax so high!

[Sparky]

I'll let you guys know how it goes if you're interested.

Please do... thanks! :)

[Sparky]

Oooooohh.... just found this:

http://www.camerastore.com.au/iAUDIO+X5-details.htm

iAudio X5 20GB for $530! It says it's discounted, which means that it probably isn't a typo....

I promised myself not to spend more than $500 on the X5, but this is really starting to test me...

[Yasakani]

Where does it say that it's the 20GB X5?

I've ordered a 30GB X5 from www.pcmall.com for USD$325 plus USD$60 (!!!) shipping to Australia. Came to AUD$510 all up. They fedexed it on thurs, expecting it this week. I'll let you know how it goes :)

ps Just so you know it's taken me 2 weeks of faxing/scanning my credit card, drivers licence, visa statement, phone bill, letter of authorisation to get pcmall to ship internationally! But at least they seem very serious about credit card security...

[Sparky]

Where does it say that it's the 20GB X5?

Hmmm... it doesn't. I just assumed it would be the 20gb model. I doubt its the 30gb or any of the L versions.

I've ordered a 30GB X5 from www.pcmall.com for USD$325 plus USD$60 (!!!) shipping to Australia. Came to AUD$510 all up. They fedexed it on thurs, expecting it this week. I'll let you know how it goes :)

AJ: what options do pcmall give you for shipping? and what is the deal with the warranty? Did you deal with them over the phone or by email? And have you factored import taxes and duties into your cost?

[Sparky]

Just checked the Camerastore website again. It now says it is the 20gb model, and the price is $525 (+$16 Shipping).

http://www.camerastore.com.au/iAUDIO+X5+20GB-details.htm

[Yasakani]

Yeah, that is a pretty "good" price though.
But I wish the 30GB would come out already. Still when it does come out, I'd still have to wait a while for the price to drop to around $500 or low $500s.

well my x5 30gb arrived on tuesday from www.pcmall.com and the good news is it's sweet.. damn sweet :)

the bad news was i got slugged $97 customs duty! i've never paid customs duty on anything sent from the US. i think because it was sent FedEx rather than post customs (or maybe fedex) scrutinises stuff a bit closer... oh well, i've got my new toy now so i'm happy.

Sparky: pcmall didn't give me any options for shipping, they insisted on FedEx. I dealt with them by phone at first (their website says they only take international orders by post) and then by email. As I said it was a bit of a process, took several faxes/scanned images of credit cards etc, but once they sent it it arrived about 4 days later. Not sure if I'd recommend them, it might be cheaper to find somewhere that will send via regular post with insurance.

[Sparky]

Yeah, I thought customs might hit you for six with duty... $97! Sheesh...

My cousin is going to New York for two weeks at the end of the week, but it's too much of a hassle trying to pay with a non-american credit card and then having to put my cousin out by making her wait around for delievery when she should be on holidays... Its a shame it isn't in any walk-in stores.... it's just not fair is it?

[sougen]

well my x5 30gb arrived on tuesday from www.pcmall.com and the good news is it's sweet.. damn sweet :)

the bad news was i got slugged $97 customs duty! i've never paid customs duty on anything sent from the US. i think because it was sent FedEx rather than post customs (or maybe fedex) scrutinises stuff a bit closer... oh well, i've got my new toy now so i'm happy.

Sparky: pcmall didn't give me any options for shipping, they insisted on FedEx. I dealt with them by phone at first (their website says they only take international orders by post) and then by email. As I said it was a bit of a process, took several faxes/scanned images of credit cards etc, but once they sent it it arrived about 4 days later. Not sure if I'd recommend them, it might be cheaper to find somewhere that will send via regular post with insurance.


Good to hear your enjoying you're new X5!!! Can't wait for mine now! Should be next week.
I'm surprised my estimate for customs duty was so close! Just off by 3 bucks! :P
The $60 shipping option means that FedEx pay for your customs tax and then send you a bill. Normally it would cost $30 for express shipping but your package will be held up at customs until you pay for it yourself. Shipping by regular Air Mail will still cost just slightly under $30 so you don't save much.

[Yasakani]

Stupid question(s)... but:
What IS customs anyway? Tax? What do they do? Do they charge about that much for everything?

[Sparky]

Customs check just about everything that comes into the country (except, of course, bags full of cocaine). Most items, unless they are labelled as "gifts", are subject to import taxes and duties. The percentage of tax/duty depends on what the item is - some goods have higher percentage of tax than others. I think they also have to add the GST on to goods that come in from overseas. So, in answer to your question, the amount that you get charged depends on what type of product the idem is and how expensive it is too - the more expensive the item, the more you have to pay to customs...

Yasakani: the customs duty i just paid on my X5 comprised 10% GST and $50 "other charges", probably import duties for consumer electronics or similar...

In the past I've ordered products from several US companies and when they arrived i found they'd written "gift" on everything so their customers avoid duties. But of course none of these companies advertise this practice as it's dishonest or maybe illegal so you just have to get lucky.

[Sparky]

In the past I've ordered products from several US companies and when they arrived i found they'd written "gift" on everything so their customers avoid duties. But of course none of these companies advertise this practice as it's dishonest or maybe illegal so you just have to get lucky.

Do any of them stock the X5?


Just out of curiousity, how much did it cost all up (inc. X5, shipping, taxes)?

[Yasakani]

oh ok, yeah, was wondering why "checking" the stuff cost so much.

[sougen]

Mine finally arrived YAY! (there was a delay cause shopthestates made a mistake on the address so it had to be returned to them).
I got charged the same amount for customs too.
Hey AJ, did you use the supplied power adapter that came with it? I was hesistant at first cause it said 110V on it, but another thread here said it was fine to use on 240V, so I tried it out and it didn't have any problems.

[Illuminant Frog]

Hi, I've been reading through this thread and how everyone can't get the iAudio X5 in walk-in stores in Australia but I've been in contact with Retravision and they reckon that they will be getting it in shortly. Fingers crossed its at a reasonable price. I'll let you know whats happening when they get back in contact with me

[Smigit]

I went to retravision Brisbane Myer Center and saw one. I asked the attendant how much it cost and he said $799. WTF. The attendant asked whenI had seen it for $600, which most people here, myself also, think is too much even. I'm going to try and see if Harvey norman or JB will order one in for me at a low price. I don't know if they will, bUt i'll tell them I aint paying more than like $520 unless they can get me a X5L in which case I'd pay a bit more. May as well buy it at that camerastore.com.au if they cant get me a lower price than that.

What us Australian's can manage in terms of accessories is really unknown to me. I'd like to get a case and cradle, possibly a remote even But i have no idea if anywhere will have em unless they had extrad from the M3. None of the online stores seem to stock any or any other X5 related pieces except the 20Gb standard player.

[sexyleb]

how long before i can get a 30gb X5L, cradle and remote for $600 in Australia do you guys reckon? (even if it requires int. shipping)

[Smigit]

I just got a reply to an email I sent Friday evening from another of the Australian sites that have been mentioned here. Heres some information that may be relevant. I left the end off the email out as it wasn't relevant.

Dear Richard,

Currently our distributor has no plans on bringing in the “L” models.



We have enquired many times on the pricing of these units but unfortunately the Distributor are unable to lower the units pricing due to iAudio HQ not giving them the flexibility as of yet. We are also hoping for a price change as they have very little hope in competing with the other products we sell.


So it a) seems like we wont be getting the L version any time soon
b) other companies are also worried about the high price meaning hopefully a drop will come soon

Anyway cya

[Smigit]

got another reply, this time from Cowan america

Dear Sir,

At the moment, our distributor in Australia only interesting about the X5 version.

That's why X5L is not available in AU yet.

I guess it will be imported to Australia sooner.

Best Regards


*tear*

[sexyleb]

That is really bad english.

[Smigit]

Well it may have been the Korean division, I'm unsure and judging by his name it probably was. In either case the news is grim for us Australians.

Sparky: sorry bout the late reply, didn't notice your post. it cost me $600 all up for the X5 30GB including $97 tax and approx $80 shipping (but you should be able to get cheaper shipping). The store I was thinking of sold Minidisc players, but that was years ago. You could always ask them to send it as a gift...

sougen: i didn't try the supplied adapter, didn't want to take the risk. I got a generic adapter with correct rating from Jaycar for $25

[jas0nt]

i just recieved confirmatiom that Haldex won't cover your warranty if your player needs repairs.


Hello Jason

At the moment we have no agreement to cover overseas warranties.

You will have to send it back to the place of purchase.

Kind Regards,


which reminds me, why the hell haven't their site been updated yet? it doesn't send a very positive reflection on their company :P

[Smigit]

Good news guys,

Just checked mp3direct.com.au and they are stocking the cases, remotes and docks now. They are all pretty exy, $49.95 AU for the case and $99.95 for a remote making them somewhat comparable to whats listed on the Cowan site. It's a start but. The payer there has dropped by $22 and they have the 30gig model available also.

Given time, it looks like someone has begun to get their act together.

desktop cradle is $69.95 AU and the radio transmitter is $99 AU.

so its all pretty exy but at least it's available now, prices will only drop =)

[Smigit]

sorry the 30gig is them taking preorders, its available july

[Yasakani]

OMG!! Its gonna be $675.40!!
gonna have to wait even more for that price to drop

[Smigit]

Thanks alot for the update. I emailed you guys maybe two days ago when it ddin't look like it was all comming, maybe it was Friday. ANyway keep us posted on price changes =)

i'd definetly be interested in a remote budle and or case one at some point, although I might wait until it hits that $500 mark as assuming it doesnt take too long. Remote could do with a price drop too I suspect too ^_^

[Donnie-Darko]

although the latest news of the 30GB X5 being available in australia is kinda a good sign... I think it's a case of too little, too late.

The problem of price isn't even close to being fixed, and today I noticed that iaudio's Biggest Competition (admit it, it is actually it's bigest threat) the iPod, has been updated with lower prices and iPod Photo Features across the board.

Why is someone going to attempt to buy an iaudio x5 in australia (it seems like some kind of mission impossible to get the model you want plus accesories as far as I'm aware) for hundreds of dollars more than they should be paying when the New Ipod 60GB will only cost a student $537.90 AUD.

Why is this honesty it's greatest threat? well although the x5 sports a range of extra features over the iPod, at least the iPod has the important ones worked out properly. The support for connecting Cameras is better documented, the range of third party accessories available is insane and when a price drop occurs in the US, at the same exact moment we get them over here.

Whoever is responsible for these prices should pull their head in, I'm guessing it's the distributor. Isn't it Obvious that they will miss out on far more in lost sales than they are getting in the short term by overcharging?

Who's with me? I hate to sit around considering an ipod purchase, but its very hard not too while iAudio's competition runs rings around them on price and availability.

[Smigit]

I'm with you mate, heck even their OTHER competitors, Creative and iRiver are being marketed competitively. We may not have the 20 gig H10's yet but all the stores I visit have 340's in stock (I'm sure some US people would envy that considering its apparently hard to get). And yeah, theres absolutly nothing wrong with this player, it wipes the floor of the iPod's 20gig since the colour screen is really just for show (well photos) but the video is such a hot selling point. However to most people it isn't worth the price premium however it seems like the distributer thinks thats the case or something odd.

I don't think its necessarily too little too late but. The player is still very new, I mean the X5L isn't in stores in the US either yet so it's not like they are ages ahead in terms of availability (saying that finding an instore X5 in AU, while not impossible, is hard).

But I agree, someone somewhere has made some really bad decisions in regards to the pricing of this player in Australia. When stores themselves are telling the distributer the price is too high you know something's up. I really hope the prices drop for the player and the accessories too ($100 for a remote???) as I'd like to see the player do well.

On the remote issue, it's overpriced in the US stores too so I can understand that I guess. I don't know if the fact the X5 plays video has lead to Haldex or whoever pricing the X5 at a PMC (portable media centre) price rather than a DAP price point. I don't know. It boggles the mind.

And yes iPod is the greatest threat, maybe not because it does what is good like you say but because it's all joe public knows. They will walk into a store to buy an mp3 player with iPod on the mind, and seeing some black unit they have never seen before selling at twice the price wont arouse their curiosity much. Price it similar or the same as an iPod and you may get them asking the salesman what it is, and if he starts blabbering on about video playback or whatever you may have just swayed 1 customer. Who knows, but that'd be the idea if I was setting the prices.

[hamishrr]

Just so everyone knows, two NZ sites are carrying the X5L:

Paradigm PCs X5L 20GB (http://www.pp.co.nz/ProductsB.php?pp_id=MP300148) NZ$659 (Cash price)
Ascent Technology X5L 20GB (http://www.ascent.co.nz/mn-product-spec.asp?pid=340097) NZ$663.46

NZ$663.46 comes to AUS$609

Both sites also carry the 30GB model.

Unfortunately neither ship to Australia at the moment so you have to have someone in NZ to ship it to, and then get them to foward it on. However that is probably a lot simpler for many Australians than finding someone in another country. NZ also has the same voltage as Austalia (or there abouts).

Paradigm PCs say they don't accept credit cards issued outside of NZ, but Ascent Technology don't say anything like that, probably best to check with them.

[Sparky]

CameraStore have the X5 20GB @ $475!

Prices are dropping!!!

http://www.camerastore.com.au/iAUDIO+X5+20GB+MP3+player-details.htm

[Smigit]

Just so everyone knows, two NZ sites are carrying the X5L:

Paradigm PCs X5L 20GB (http://www.pp.co.nz/ProductsB.php?pp_id=MP300148) NZ$659 (Cash price)
Ascent Technology X5L 20GB (http://www.ascent.co.nz/mn-product-spec.asp?pid=340097) NZ$663.46

.
Thats really interesting actually. Do they have a different supplier than we do here in Australia. At $475 the X5 is in my range really now but if theres a chance the X5L wil be here soon I'd definetly hold out a tad longer.

edit: at those NZ stores the L version is only $30 more than the non L version...if they could pull that over here that'd be the best move they've done yet. I was half expecting the L to be like $100 extra.

[sexyleb]

i don't mean to bring the old "Aus vs. NZ" thing into these forums....but why is it NZ will get X5l's and AUS won't?

[oVerCaffeinated]

CameraStore have the X5 20GB @ $475!

Prices are dropping!!!

http://www.camerastore.com.au/iAUDIO+X5+20GB+MP3+player-details.htm

WOW, that's done it, I'm getting one now. Only $25 more than the iRiver H320.

[Smigit]

i don't mean to bring the old "Aus vs. NZ" thing into these forums....but why is it NZ will get X5l's and AUS won't?
Who knows, but I emailed Sefu like Monday and my response was they wont have the accessories and it may come later and then 4 days later we have all the accessories so I guess these thing's can change real quick and I really hope that I can pop onto a site next week and just see the L's there. *fingers crossed*. I wouldn't expect alot of notice if they do come but.

[Yasakani]

So how does that Camerastore have the X5 20GB for $475 whilst every other online store (Australian) are selling it for about $566??
Would Camerastore be making a loss?

[sexyleb]

i have no idea why they would sell at loss, not like their are must-have accessories likes cartridges are to printers or Games are to the Xbox. Even then, if people buy from other retailers these must-have, camerastore gets nothing. Unless they are overstocked, which is very, very unlikely, i see no reason why they would.

[Smigit]

either they are getting them cheaper somehow and can afford to sell them less and still at a profit or they are making a loss to get some brand recognition going for their other goods, Maybe they want people to believe they have the lowest prices should we ever choose to buy a camera. I believe they would be making a profit but.

[Illuminant Frog]

Well, when the iAudio X5 20G was selling for $599 on www.minidisk.com.au it was selling for $525 on camerastore.com.au. I asked Minidisk Australia about the camerastore price and they said that they were selling it for less than their cost price. Seems as if they might be going through a different distributor, seems unlikely as I thought Haldex was Australia's X5 distributor and they are the ones hooking up Minidisk Australia with their X5's. Just thought I'd throw in my two cents

[sexyleb]

maybe they fell off the back of Haldex's truck

[Smigit]

Or they are getting theirs from overseas. $299 US + customs (in bulk no less), may be cheaper than what they are selling it at now.

[sexyleb]

I'm fine with that, as long as they have an AUS warranty...

[Illuminant Frog]

So who handles the iAudio X5's warranty here in oz. Cause I thought that Haldex said they weren't responsible for warranty support

[mversion]

If I'm not mistaken Haldex has only said that they won't be responsible for warranty for iaudio products purchased overseas.
Although it is unlikely camerastore are getting their stock from overseas, I still can't see how they could dare sell a $400+ item without warranty.

[Smigit]

Legally don't they have a minimum warrenty they must suppy on goods purchased from them?

[mversion]

It'll be interesting to see what Haldex has to say about this.

I was also inquiring about the X5L, and I was told by Haldex that they have no intention of importing it. I think it was just a short while ago that it was a possibility, but now it seems it ain't.

[Smigit]

Sefu, have you dealt with Haldex much before of only with the iaudio products? Just that Haldex, on its site seems to specialise in "PHOTOGRAPHIC / VIDEO / DIGITAL EQUIPMENT & ACCESSORIES" (sorry caps its a copy and paste). Anyway that could mean that Haldex is their primary supplier for some time and as such they have been given some form of discount since they are probably getting cameras and the like too, being a camera store and all. Even if they arent a primary supplier, they may be getting ALOT of pretty expensive goods through them due to the nature of their store. Food for thought.

I hope your negotiations go well but and hope to hear something decent news on the X5L.

[hamishrr]

Good news for X5L hunters!

mp4store.com.au X5L 20GB (http://www.mp4store.com.au/product225/product_info.html) AU$592
mStation.com.au X5L 20GB (http://www.mstation.com.au/ms/products/default.asp?ID=440/) AU$599

mStation also has the 30GB model, but for a substantial increase in price ($729!)

[Smigit]

omg thankyou, if they get the price to $550 I will grab one. Looks like it's ging at approx $50 more than the standard X5, not too bad.

hopefully minidiskshop can pull a good price, I wonder what price camera shop will set if they get them also.

[sexyleb]

$729 huh? k.

[Smigit]

mainly thats because the 30gig is going for like $660 as standard. seems the extra 10gigs cost $100 and the extra battery is like $50 so its about $150 more than a standard 20 (depending where u look)

[Illuminant Frog]

mStation might be able to get a decent enough deal for someone interested in the X5L. They mentioned it in an email to me only the other day except that i'm not all that interested in the X5L anymore. Give me the sexy X5 shape and an external battery pack if I need it

[mversion]

mstation listing the x5L 30gb as in stock, when Haldex themselves don't have it in stock is interesting. In fact, Haldex won't be having the X5 30GB till at least Thursday. I know cause I am waiting for them to deliver mine. I wanted the X5L, but they said they aren't getting it.

[Sparky]

OMG! The wierdest thing happened to me yesterday... after weeks of scouring Sydney for an X5 in a walk-in store, I finally found one - in Griffith of all places! (for those who don't know, Griffith is in south-western NSW, about 7 hours away from Sydney)... Anyway, I was walking down the main street when I thought I'd just pop into the local "Camerahouse" store to check out whatever gadgets they had and the first thing that caught my eye was the X5 sitting there on display (above the iPod, where it belongs). I can't believe that I had to drive 7 hours out of Sydney to a random country town to find it...

Anywho, they only had one on sale and it was the display model, and the best price they could do was $525, so I didn't buy it. But it feels good in the hand and looks awesome, so I'll probably order it from Camerastore as soon as I get a bit more money in the bank.

Sorry for the long post, but I just thought I'd tell those who want to see the X5 first hand to check out "Camerahouse" stores...

[Smigit]

MP3 Direct is listing it as $497 (http://mp3direct.com.au) , as is camera shop, 2 stores are sub $500 now (cameras has risen by $20 or so), the other few are trailing behind at about $550 yet (expect some to update soon but)

Camerastore told me in an email they expect the X5L witih 2 weeks, I'm asking them for a price and awaiting a reply (assuming they have that info yet)

[suz60]

minidisc.com.au has the 30gig X5 listed for $660.It appears to be in stock. They also list the cradle for $59. Would definitely get this as it would solve the problem of the subpack going missing around the house. Am 95% sold on the X5 rather than the iriver 340....it's all so confusing!! Any words of wisdom?

[Smigit]

I'm waiting for the X5L's which are around soon, will get a 20gig version (I know some places have it but broader availability will mean lower cost hopefully). And yeah the 30gig should be out, get that if you need the space or save the money and get a 20gig for $500. I'll hazard a guess that the 30gig X5L's will come with the 20's but i duno for sure.

anyway heres some alternative stores you can look at if you havent seen them
http://mp3direct.com.au/webstore/default.asp
http://www.minidisc.com.au/default.php
http://www.camerastore.com.au/iAUDIO+X5+20GB+MP3+player-details.htm
http://www.mp4store.com.au/index.php
http://www.mstation.com.au/ms/


Camerahouse also lists on their site they stock them, its a retail store so check ur phone book and call them and ask for prices. the site list it but has no pricing nfo.

[Smigit]

thanks Sefu, I was wondering when you would have the X5L considering mstation and mp4shop have them on sale? I want to get one but was holding out for you guys and hoping it would sell for 549 or so.

[Sefu]

As far as I am aware MP4store purchase some of their products from mstation.
There is no news from Haldex that they are bringing in the "L" models as of yet, its possible later down the track, just not too sure when though :(
So it leads me to think that they may be importing these models in??

[Smigit]

hmmm ok, cos I emailed camera store and got this reply

Hi Richard

We are expecting it any minute but have not yet got stock from our supplier. As soon as we do we will list it on the site but unfortunately do not have an exact date. Hopefully be within the next 2 weeks



So perhaps they are actually gona be importing. I dunno. *tear*

[idiotekniQues]

Thanks you guys, I decided to buy the x5 in Holland(that's where I live, I should get it on monday or tuesday). However I now have to live on the street and ask everyone who passes me to give me some money to survive. It's so expensive, I could almost buy an car for that price. But I guess(HOPE) it's all worth it. It's more then 20 percent more expensive in holland then in America, and they don't have any case, so I have to wait for that, but the dockingstation (not the minidock/subpack but the real dock) is free. SWEET :D!
My schedule for the weekend:
Working and converting,
got more then 200 cd's to convert, pff.
I will let you'll know my experiences with the x5. hopefully the review is coming soon (from eXity or austinv) 'cause the week is already over!

i can see the advertisement now

"i lived off banana peels and peanut shells to get my x5!"

*insert picture of very skinny fella holding x5 in front of a supermarket*

[Smigit]

As far as I am aware Camera Store do not import, they are a reputable company.

I just spoke to our rep as I was informed that they are bringing in the X5L models. The ETA is late July to early August. I'm not 100% sure on the price but I was told it should be around $50 - $60AUD more than the regular X5. So Camera store are correct :)
Thankyou, will be a hard two or three weeks for me now =)

[Smigit]

http://mp3direct.com.au/webstore/prodlist.asp?s_brand=&s_category=&s_pdstatus=&s_product=iaudio&s_product_code=&s_subcategory=&FormLIST_Page=2#LIST

MP3 direct prices for the preorder of the X5L products (along with price drops in the non L range)

[jum]

Hi to everyone just new to the board,can anyone tell me if there is any shops in perth that i can buy the x5 from? i know its a long shot and so far i have not found any place that sells them and i dont like buying items on line and yes i am paranoid up to a piont! Thanks in advance for any help.

[Smigit]

http://camerahouse.com.au

check the store locator I guess, the X5 is in their products list but I dont think they have prices.

[jum]

I tried different camerahouse stores today but without success,just phoned their store Gerry Gibbs Camera House, CANNINGTON and yes they have the x5 in stock for $649 dollars and thats the 20gig version,now is that expensive? and he could not tell me if that was the xl version,any thoughts and thanks in advance.

[Smigit]

I tried different camerahouse stores today but without success,just phoned their store Gerry Gibbs Camera House, CANNINGTON and yes they have the x5 in stock for $649 dollars and thats the 20gig version,now is that expensive? and he could not tell me if that was the xl version,any thoughts and thanks in advance.
That is, about 3 online retailers are selling it for $495 or so (within the 490 - 500 mark)

many of those retailers are in australiia too, so if you can bare it it may work ourt ok. By no means would you be buying overseas and being melb some may be quite local.

[Ivegottheskill]

I bought an X5 at a physical store in Sydney (HomeZone Digital World) for A$539. Without a case or remote unfortunately, but 1yr warranty with JNC

JNC has their name/logo on all their distributed Cowon products (appears as "JNC iAudio" on the front of both the M3 and X5 units

[Joe Zammit]

Hi Guys,
As you can see, my name is Joe Zammit, I am the General Manager of HALDEX Pty. Ltd. I have just read most of the input in this forum and I felt that a few things needed to be straighted out! HALDEX became the Sole distributor of all things iAUDIO as of May 2005! The is the first time that iAUDIO has had true representation in Australia! It has taken a little time to get the iAUDIO products into retail stores because retail stores have been hooked up on that other brand called iPOD! It is now July and we are seeing more and more stores around Australia stocking iAUDIO products, inparticular the X5! I noticed in the Forum, there was talk that "HALDEX said this & HALDEX said that" So I am here to set the record straight! *The X5L in 20 & 30Gb will be available at the end of July. *WARRANTY: Cowan (the manufacture of the X5) gives The X5 a ONE year LOACL Warranty! The Warranty covers the X5 in the country in which it is purchased in! This is a Warranty proivded by Cowan and NOT by HALDEX Pty. Ltd. HALDEX MUST adhere to Cowan's Warranty policy! So be wary when purchasing over the NET! Make sure if you live in Australia, you are buying an Australian delivered product and make sure you hold on to your receipt for proof of purchase! *JNC: In years gone by, JNC had their product range produced by Cowan and in most cases it was the same product as iADUIO but re-badged! Cowan have ceased all ties with JNC and are now concentrating on their own brand name which is iAUDIO! *What comes with the X5: The X5 comes complete with D/C power adaptor, USB cable, connecting cradle, OTG cable, protection screens & JetAudio Software, the case is optional, not bad really when you take into account that other similar products ONLY come with USB cable!!! *Accessories: All in stock! *Where to buy: If you are having difficulties locating a retail store near you, just contact the HALDEX office on 02 9553 8399 and we'll be happy to let you know of your nearest stockist! *PRICE: HALDEX Pty. Ltd, as a Wholesaler cannot set retail prices! But I can tell you that the go price on the street for the X5 20G is around $540-$550, so if you can get it cheaper, you are doing well!
I hope I have managed to cover all your questions & concerns, the HALDEX website should finally be up and running again in two or three weeks time so please make sure you visit our site for the latest on X5!

Regards,



Joe.

[Smigit]

Thankyou. Just to clarrify, when the X5L becomes available at the end of this month we will also see the introduction of the X5L cradle, since the X5's wont take the L?

Anyway thats for posting. Perhaps a lil easier on the "!" marks but =)

[Joe Zammit]

Regarding the optional Desk Cradle for the X5L, I am waiting on confirmation from Cowan as to when it will be available, I think you will find it will be at the end of July! Fingers Crossed!



Joe.
P.S. What's wrong with a few !!!!!!!!!!!!! anyway!!!!!!

[Sparky]

Nothing wrong at all! Thanks for keeping us informed!

[jum]

I have just talked to jb hi-fi in whitfords,perth about the x5l and they will order me in the 30gig version for $615 and they expect it to take 5 days,just thought i would let people know,i delt with a guy called Rochard who i found very helpful.

[jum]

Joe,could you tell me when the battery has to be replaced,were do we send the unit? dos Cowan have a service centre here in Australia,thanks in advance.

[knee deep]

I was able to track down some stores in melbourne for the X5 but they are more expensive than online etailers ($30 cheaper). is there any benefit to buying from a physical store?

the number to get stores is through haldex 1800 251 524

[Smigit]

if the store is close then in the case your player breaks you can return it without paying postage. You also wont have any delivery cost and delays. if it's only $30 then it may be worth retail depending on what you would be paying on P&H. Your call

[Wolfix]

I just preordered the 30GB X5L online thru mp3direct.com.au and it was $649 + $13.75 shipping (incl GST). Pretty happy with this price. Same as offered on various Aussie websites. Here's hoping they come through with the goods!

I'll be annoyed to find out that I've been ripped off but sh*t happens... so does HALDEX supply to mp3direct?

To my knowlege, the X5 isn't available in any retail stores at least until the end of July...

I get the impression that I didn't get the best deal on my X5L but then, I've been researching players for 2 1/2 years (!!!) and FINALLY took the plunge on one I think might be worth getting.

Up till now they've all fallen short of my VERY BASIC list of requirements. Same with mobile phones *rolls eyes*. I expect to be disappointed in some respects but will definitely voice my opinions to Cowon Tech on all areas of the product so as to be an active part of the IMPROVEMENT of their products.

Still can't believe the market is so small for 60Gb+ players when people are ripping at 256+ and downloading music faster than they can piss...

[knee deep]

i'm engaged to the X5 but not married unfortunately. i'm still not sure whether i could possible haggle the $30 out of him. We'll see what happens

[Yasakani]

Knee Deep, which real store(s) in Melbourne did you find that had the X5 in stock??
Did they have the 30GB non L versions, or just the 20GB version??

[knee deep]

I'm not quite sure which versions they had or whether they had any physical stock. They may have to order it in for customers. There were two stores but i don't recall the names of them. call the toll free number in my previous post. but they are in both in the CBD

[sexyleb]

i am fairly glad to see prices dropping, thought it would tak a lot longer than this.

[jum]

I finally went into JB-HiFi in Whitfords(Perth) and ordered the x5L 30gig for $595 which i think is a sweet price,will let you know when i get it.I spoke to Rochard who informed me that they hope to get a few of them in and start to carry the iaudio range which is good.He will let me know on tuesday how much the dock and remote will cost and once he dos i will post it here.

[Illuminant Frog]

Just got off the phone to a JB-HiFi person here on the Gold Coast. She hadnt heard of the iAudio range before but is giving head office a call and making a few enquiries which is good. Shes also a passionate, erm,
anti- iPod fan which is good so hopefully things will start to shake up here on the coast and we'll see some stores actually carrying the damned X5

[glob]

Saw the X5 20 gig payer in homezone as well, advertised $600 and immediatly reduce to $539 (apparently a unknow customer bought it at that price before me... ;) ). Anyway still waiting for the L version. Seen it also at the good guys. They will stock the L version in august and the 20gig will apparently have a price tag of $550. Note that in the alexandria Sydney shop, they provide the player with a second box, which might be the remote - I did not really push further. When I go to buy for the player, I will probably push to get the remote or the cradle if the L version is available. Please when you buy the item, post the location and price you bought.

[Illuminant Frog]

The Good Guys eh? I didnt know they stocked it. Is this Good Guys in Sydney and if they are do you know any information about X5 availability in the Good Guys stores on the Gold Coast

[knee deep]

Teh website claims that Retravision stores stock them. I called one of their biggest stores and they have never heard of it. I'm so annoyed as he didn't even bother trying to find out if they will stock it. I swear they're working for the devil ie. apple. I have tried some jb stores around melbourne and nothing. could anyone else share some x5 purchase stories in melbourne?

[Ivegottheskill]

Thats weird. The 20GB iAUDIO X5 I got just under 3 weeks ago has a JNC badge. Did HALDEX only take over very recently?

[knee deep]

They took over since may or the end of may dont'really remember

[glob]

HomeZone, which is a sub of retravision stocks the X5, at least in Sydney. It's probably more to do with the size of the store or the owner of the franchise if it's one. And the commercial objectives of the guy who stocks DAP. The guy who presented me the X5 at the shop told me they would never get the version L in Australia, which obviously is bull****. Sad guy... Anyway, does not prevent me to talk to him to get the price down.

[knee deep]

hey good luck. They have no idea what they babble about. I had a guy (absolute ass) at myer say "yes it will be in next week definitely" 5 days late in again, "I am 100% sure we will not get it in". And it was the SAME guy. geez. I think i will just get it off minidisc.com.au

[glob]

Well the problem is always the same, isn't it? They all want to sell products to people who don't know shit about anything. Better margins, easier sale... The list goes on. And that's where Apple beats everyone 1)clear brand name, 2) consitant pricing (still bugs me that we have to pay so much more in Australia compared to the US for the same item), 3) simple no brainer product - importance of their design here...
When Iaudio goes there with many version of the same products, that bugs them... Of course, they won't receive the L version, they want you to buy the ones they have in stock now, not to wait for the better product that's coming next week...

This said, the guy at the good guys shop was more helful. The L version should be stocked there mid-august and priced at $550 for the 20 Gig. Hopefully, there'll be a way to get a docking station or a remote for free or a few bucks with it (You keep your margin on the player but you give me a toy at cost). Still can't beleive the dock and the remote are so expensive...

[Smigit]

Sefu, I was wondering instead of the case if we could do a cradle or something, I dont plan on getting the official iAudio case since I prefer the Mystic Audio one, But when I do make the purchase I was planning on getting alongside an X5L a cradle, the Sony MDR Headphones (whatever, the $95 pair), and a larger case logic case to hold everything. So yeah was spending more but would prefer If I could somehow keep it bellow $700 if only just.

I might email you about it later, just seeing if its possible to organise something If I purchase other goods at the same time. I wouldn't mind any response being in an email either if thats what you'd prefer. Anyway keep us posted on that X5L :)

[knee deep]

I was offered a good deal by minidisc
20gb X5
free leather case
free shipping
cradle for $539

To me it seems cheaper than anything i've come across. Sefu? how much extra would the 30gb cost me?

[Smigit]

Smigit,
Please send me a email of the stuff you need and I see what I can do for you. I dont have any firm pricing of the X5L as of yet, I only have round about figures.

....we are having email issues right now
Let me know if you didnt get my email then =)

[knee deep]

Sefu, we must be having email problems. you can alternatively send it to belindanim@three.com.au where i can receive it.

[Smigit]

isn't their entire site down? Neither me or my mate can get on

[Sefu]

Yeah we are having some DNS issues. We are trying to get it fixed up now. Im not too sure whats going on

[Smigit]

Ok, well if you didn't get my email let me know later on (feel free to email me or post here, I have it set to watch this thread). good luck with the site

[Illuminant Frog]

X5 available from The Good Guys Bundall, on the Goldie. Apparently in the second week of August. Going out at a not so lean $599!!. BTW who is Sefu an affiliate of?\

Edit: Dont worry, the only place that sells the X5 for $495 is MiniDisk Australia.

[knee deep]

Sefu is from minidisc Australia. I found them to be the cheapest in Australia. i highly recommend to shop there.

[Illuminant Frog]

Yeh I know. Beats the prices on Mp3Direct and a lot of other competitors. I just like the security of purchasing a product from a physical store, I can haggle that way as well lol. But if MiniDisk threw in a few cradle with the X5 20GB id be sorely tempted to uh, re-evaluate my purchasing methods.

[Smigit]

send him an email, they seem very good with "haggling" as you'd say. I haven't yet made my purchase But I contacted them regarding the X5L and their service has been nothing but top notch. I love the fact he takes time to visit the site and that although I check their site daily to see if the X5L is there, he said he'd email me on it's arrival. Excelent service thus far. Other reports seem to be overwhelming positive too and any minor were usually an issue with the carrier not them.

[Illuminant Frog]

Does Sefu have an email of which I could use to contact him. If so, where would I find it or could you provide it for us Smigit

[knee deep]

Yeah i got a great deal on the x5 with the cradle and free case and free shipping. give him an email and you wont regret it. he will check in here every now and then. their repair centres are local so no shipping to get it fixed. thats the reason i chose it over engear

Minidisc Australia <sales@minidisc.com.au>

[Illuminant Frog]

As a matter of interest knee deep, are you able to disclose the deal you received?

[Smigit]

Yeah I also got a deal, based on the expected price of the X5L so I'm just waiting for it and I can order straight away. Just incase I'll keep that offer to myself, but I also ordered headphones and another case (caselogics large travel one), along with the fact it's an "L" player so what I got would be very different to most people anyway. To be honest I'd rather send this to them for repair than deal with some stores I've had to in the past.

[Illuminant Frog]

Ah, fair enough. I'm deffinitely inclined now to make a purchase from MiniDisk and will be following up with some haggley emails. Lol, love this forum, awsome support and information

[knee deep]

hey Illuminant Frog, i probably shouldnt have but i couldnt but get excited. its in a previous post in this thread. any chance smigit could tell us how much he had saved rather then get offered for the x5L package you have? just asking. anyways you should buy from minidisc, they are very good and understanding to their customers

[Smigit]

Well I managed to pull my total cost from above $700 to the upper $600's. I think it was approx 10% or so saving (probably about 8% off my head). Bare in mind that the above 700 is mainly due to the $95 headphones and cost of a cradle, we took the X5L to be $550. Neither know if the cradle will be available (heres hoping), the offer was an as if thing, if it's not about I'll just contact em again. I think all up it was pretty much equivalent to everyone here getting a free case, the idea was that I already had a case so that offer really was no help to me, why I arranged an alternative. Infact if you wana get a case dollar for dollar thats probably the better route.

Also said it'd be free shipping which I didn't actually need since I had 4 items in the basket and you need 3 to get free shipping, but its a nice geusture anyway lol.

[knee deep]

haha oh yeah you would have had 3+ items regardless. yeah i think everyone gets a free case. thanks for that. no matter i'm still happy with my deal

[Smigit]

yeah. well make sure you tell them your from this site when making the order otherwise they dont know, I believe its only for ppl here. Yeah sorry I'm not more precise with pricing, would rather keep it to myself. Good luck guys with yours.

Knee Deep, have you actually ordered yours?

[Illuminant Frog]

Thats an awsome deal knee deep

[knee deep]

Illuminant Frog, yeah i know...it was far beyond what i was expecting. I emailed engear to see if they could do something special for me and they said they couldn't due to some other reason (limited stocks!!! my ass)

smigit, no i havent as he was kind enough to let me get the funds together and pay in two weeks time.

Obviously you havent as its a x5l model as they havent got it as yet, but i hope all runs smoothly

[Smigit]

Yeah, I'll keep you all posted. It was meant to be here late this month But I'll guess in the 1st two weeks of August. The waits killing me but I'll let you all know how the order and delivery goes. Will be only my second online purchase actually, the other being the mistic audio case that arrived yesterday.

[knee deep]

how exciting even though we get everything a century later than the rest of the world. do you think its worth opting for the x5L i have wanted it then thought about its thickness. i just need a to the point decision. could you shed any light on why you chose it?

[Smigit]

I chose it mainly because although 16 hrs is absolutly fine with me, I will only be using it on the bus on a daily basis for uni travels I do plan on the device staying with me quite some time. Unfortunatly alot of battery devices the battery seems to die after a while so while 16 is fine, 10 hrs or so would be irritating down the road. So basically I'm paying the extra for the long term benefit.

In terms of size that threw me a bit. I went to harvey norman and saw an M3 which is the thickness of the X5 at the thinnest bit and it seemed so small that I could manage and extra 4 - 8mm (depending where you are measuring from). Now that I have the leather case it actually seems quite small, its not alot bigger than my 6230 I dont think measuring it.

So yeah, I got it so it would last the long haul, especially since the battery isnt replaceable. Size hasnt seemed to be a huge factor with people here and it is still smaller than most 20gig players anyway. Ohhh and I plan to watch the odd movie (not alot) on it, so battery would help me there.

[knee deep]

Yeah i did think about how the battery will waste away over time. But i keep coming back to its thickness and whether it will have a cradle. someone had mentioned that the battery can be replaced at a cost. do you know how long it would take for the battery to depreciate to half its life?

[Smigit]

I read I think somewhere at 2 years they will be about 80% of its charge, after that I dont know. There should be a cradle, I mean Haldex havent mentioned it but you can buy one here http://www.mp4store.com.au/category7/product245/product_info.html it seems. They arent distributing via haldex I don't think but.

I suppose the question will be size vs price vs batter. I think I'd rather battery myself, its a tough one but.

[knee deep]

geez thats crazy. it better be worth all my hard earned money. i think this time battery life takes precedent over its size. there have been mixed opinions so i find it hard to make the best decision.

[Smigit]

well whats 80% of 16, about 3? So like if you are getting a full 16 hrs to begin with you should get 13, thats under ideal conditions but. I duno, I'll play it safe although Im sure a normal L would be fine. Unfortunatly noones used the player long enough to really know how well the battery drains over time. Hopefully wouldnt be 2 much.

anyway gluck, need some sleep.

[Illuminant Frog]

thats the same for me too. i love the thought of 35 hours of music playback for the sacrifice of its slender design, but still it doesnt seem that big. I mean its still thinner than my Gameboy Colour at their thickest points, and the Colour had a great pocketability factor to me

[Smigit]

helps that I dont wear jeans. Infact my normal Pant's I can quite easily fit 3 or 4 cd's in my pockets. I usually wear my devices on a belt but so again, size doesnt matter alot there.

[knee deep]

well thanks guys. hopefully we'll all get them soon. night

[glob]

Any news on the availablity of the X5L in Oz?

[Illuminant Frog]

The X5L is currently listed on these Australian online merchant websites
X5L 20GB
http://www.mstation.com.au/ms/products/default.asp?ID=439
http://www.mp3direct.com.au/webstore/pdinfoadv.asp?productID=895&s_brand=IAUDIO&s_category=&s_pdstatus=&s_product=&s_product_code=&s_subcategory=&
X5L 30GB
http://www.mstation.com.au/ms/products/default.asp?ID=441
http://www.mp3direct.com.au/webstore/pdinfoadv.asp?productID=896&s_brand=IAUDIO&s_category=&s_pdstatus=&s_product=&s_product_code=&s_subcategory=&

As to the availability of the X5L in physical retail stores, you'd be best off
contacting Haldex, but they'll probably tell you early to mid August.
Besides, the best deals on the X5 units that I've seen or heard of have been on the net, MiniDisk Australia have had notable compliments made about their website, and they too are meant to be getting the X5L models soon, read this thread, Smigit mentions it more than once

[Smigit]

The X5L is currently listed on these Australian online merchant websites
X5L 20GB
http://www.mstation.com.au/ms/products/default.asp?ID=439
http://www.mp3direct.com.au/webstore/pdinfoadv.asp?productID=895&s_brand=IAUDIO&s_category=&s_pdstatus=&s_product=&s_product_code=&s_subcategory=&
X5L 30GB
http://www.mstation.com.au/ms/products/default.asp?ID=441
http://www.mp3direct.com.au/webstore/pdinfoadv.asp?productID=896&s_brand=IAUDIO&s_category=&s_pdstatus=&s_product=&s_product_code=&s_subcategory=&

As to the availability of the X5L in physical retail stores, you'd be best off
contacting Haldex, but they'll probably tell you early to mid August.
Besides, the best deals on the X5 units that I've seen or heard of have been on the net, MiniDisk Australia have had notable compliments made about their website, and they too are meant to be getting the X5L models soon, read this thread, Smigit mentions it more than once
MP3 Direct is actually only a preorder. The good thing there is that they have a price assurance guarantee where they wont bill you until the product is available therefore if the price drops you pay that not a more exy preorder price. Them, Camera store and Minidisk will all get it at the same time I believe.

You can also get the X5L here but
http://www.mp4store.com.au/index.php

As I said earlier Im going with minidisk shop. They have been utmost helpful and it turns out the free shipping is overnight delivery, even better =)

[Illuminant Frog]

Mmm yeh I know they're only preorders, but it's still somewhere that the kid will be able to check to see the prices. Thats the only deterrent for me now, getting the price right.

[Smigit]

yeah NP, that was just incase he tried to make an order expecting the player by tuesday

[knee deep]

I am definitely going with minidisc. To me there is no substitute for good service. Hopefully they will contact us soon. I'm dying for it. Minisdisc might be the same or lower price since they have the cheapest australian price for the X5.

[Illuminant Frog]

Yeh, good service and good prices are all it takes; the making of a loving relationship for me and an X5

[Smigit]

the making of a loving relationship for me and an X5I wish you two all the best :P

[knee deep]

too true. i cant wait till i get mine. i will come back to tell you all about it. but it wont be for a few weeks as the L stock hasnt come through

[Smigit]

so better be in this week, its killing me

BTW minidisk said the free shipping we get is overnight delivery =)

[Illuminant Frog]

overnight?? goodness, gracious me. awsome

[knee deep]

yeah how great is that? its cheap either way. shipping is $12

[Illuminant Frog]

Well i had to wait 6 days for my Shures to get delivered but that was from the US, so a days wait after that is great

[knee deep]

Did you go for the x5 20G model then?

[Illuminant Frog]

Nah, I havent ordered yet. I am very perticular about getting the best price for anything, so i might be able to get a friend to get it at an electrical store for cost price when it becomes available on the coast. If i can get a better deal off of MiniDisk, as the prices at the time of release in retail stores will be depressingly high, then yeh, ill be with them all the way

[knee deep]

Oh i see, wish i knew someone who could get it as cost price. what are the markups of mp3 players these days?

[Smigit]

hey out of interest how much did your shures cost? I'm looking at the Sony MDR 71's atm simple because it seems the best thing about in AU atm, although I don't know If I wana see if Minidisk could get me some shures or an ER6 set if they werent much more and good. I don't know if its worth the trouble and price mind you, especially when the Sony ones are alot more expensive than id usually pay. I have seen the shures and ER6's for about $70 US which would be about the sony price though, unless I needed to buy the softer seals for the E2c (more money there).

I duno, I think the sony's will do me, for now anyway. any oppinion?

[Illuminant Frog]

Ah, well i wanted to get some really good ones, so i had my eye on the Shure E3C, which was retailing for a good $280 at Wickeddigital.com.au, and the local Musicians Pro shop here was selling Shure E2C's for about $180, so when i found i could get the E4C for very little more than the E3C's here in Oz, i made the arrangements and got them.

Oh and knee deep, about 2 months ago, the iRiver H320 was retailing for $499 at the Good Guys store where my mate works and said that he could get it for $320

Edit: I've always had really decent hearing which is why i got the Shures, but the Sonys MDR's do get decent wrap-ups. It all comes to personal preference in choosing, which, when it comes to head and ear phones, can be cumbersomely long if your picky. Dead happy with the E4C's and at the price I should bloody think I should be

[Smigit]

hehe I thought you said e2c's. I'll email mini disk although I'm not too fussed to be honest. The attractive thing with them to me is actually the build, while sony seems to have pretty good sound they do seem prone to tearing. Saying that god knows what some people do to their phones and since mine will spend their lives in a case they SHOULD remain in fairly good nic.

[Illuminant Frog]

the shure case is so tiny, so its good once uve jammed the damn phones inside it and its all compact but its just so small!!

[Smigit]

yeah. I only just saw pics of those phones actually in an ear, up until now it had all been external pics and the phones looked so massive and uncomfortable due to their somewhat odd shape. Seeing them iun use is such a different story, heck one pic the external bit could haedly be seen, let alone the plug part.

Emailed minidisk seeing what price they can get them at if at all. Seeing as all the AU shops are doiung them for $140 and I wouldnt wana do more than 100 I wont hold my breath. It'll be interesting anyways. Like I said, sony seems fine as long as the cord doesnt rip on me.

I still cant believe how much the E5c's are but.

[Illuminant Frog]

lol i would never shell out that much for earphones. but i mean they are specialistic earphones at that price. they look more like hearing aids than earphones though

[Smigit]

Dear Richard,
I was informed that the X5L should be available by the end of the week.
We are listing the X5L on our website today


^ Minidisk. Horayyyyyyy (wasnt listed as of 2 mins ago, I'll look again 2morrow)

[jum]

Thats good to hear,now all i am waiting for is for jb-hi to contact me and tell me my x5L which i ordered has come in.Man i cant wait, i am like a kid at christmas!

[Illuminant Frog]

JB Hi-Fi, which one jum?

[knee deep]

mmmm.....iaudio x5.... i really can't wait

[jum]

Illuminant, i have ordered it through JB Hi-Fi in Whittfords(Perth),$595 for the 30 gig x5L,$35 for the dock and $65 for the remote.Their supplier is HALDEX so they ordered it in for me and they plan to carry a few as floor stock.I have to give Rochard who i dealt with in the store a big thumbs up as he went to the effort to order it in for me and give me what i think is a great price on it.

[jum]

knee deep, i all most forgot.I asked about melbourne jb stores in relation to the x5 and i was told that it is up to each store what range they carry,i was lucky that i dealt with the head of the mp3 department in whittfords who ordered me one in and who is pushing to carry the iaudio range.

[Illuminant Frog]

Jum, I'm conversing with JB Hi-Fi here on the Gold Coast in Bundall and haven't made much headway yet, but one of their suppliers is HALDEX too so I'll just keep bugging them till it's available in stores :)

[knee deep]

Thanks jum, I thought it was an individual store decision. I have already chosen to buy online. But thankyou for letting me know.

[jum]

Illuminant,i cant see why they cant order you in a x5,i would definately keep bugging them,you would think if one JB Hi-Fi store can do it then they all can do it,what ever happened to customer service?..good luck in your attempts anyway.I just spoke to the whittfords store and have been told my x5L should be in store tomorrow or at worst thursday,hope its true!

[Illuminant Frog]

X5L available on MiniDisk.com.au at the cheapest price I've seen online, $535!

[Smigit]

indeed they emailed me, they are organising the stock. they are gona email me back with an adjusted offer.

[Kelseywalsh]

Hey Guys

I really want ot get a iaudio X5L 30gb does anyone know where i can get one in tasi or get one shipped over

Thanks

[Illuminant Frog]

Awsome mate. Do you know if they're getting the accessories that match the X5L soon?

[Smigit]

he said he expected the cradle to be available. They are apparently organising their invoice and he was gona let me know then.

[Illuminant Frog]

Kelseywalsh, are you comfortalbl with ordering online. If so, then that is you best and most hassle free bet mate, because its a product that most retail stores do not carry.

[Smigit]

to add to that Minidisk and mp3direct (i think) both have cash on delivery options where you can pay on pickup of the order at trhe post office if you are worried about payoing over the net. Some other stores may do this. Still isnt the same as local buying but it eliminates the payment issues

[glob]

Finally ordered my X5L and got a real good deal from mp3direct. They actually will stock the cradle along the player and expect to receive their stock anyday now. Since they're based in Sydney, I'll be able to pick the goods myself as soon as I receive the mail confirming they have the iaudio in. Sweet.

[Illuminant Frog]

glob, care to elaborate on said deal with mp3direct?

[glob]

x5l and cradle and headphones. I suggest you contact them directly if you want any specifics on the price and mention the iaudiophile forum. From what I read around here, I am still very happy with the deal I got.

[knee deep]

i had contacted mp3direct to see if they could do a deal for forum members. They said they couldnt because of some stock reason. hmmm....so u went with minidisc.com.au Everyone in Australia...shop with minidisc.com.au

[glob]

They obviously fo now because I got a pretty decent deal from them. Joy of the supply/demand world... ;)

[knee deep]

Oh would it have been better than minidisc?

[jum]

I am just wondering if the deal people got online is better than the one i got at JB HI-FI?

[Smigit]

Well my offer is being changed, minidisk emailed me and said they would offer me a lower price. This is without me actually asking btw. Awaiting a response, probably 2morrow