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07-18-2007, 08:20
over at the Korea site Cowon has released Firmware 1.13
Firmware 1.13 (http://download.cowon.com/data/C08/I7_FW_1.13.zip)
God... what is up with the Global site? they have yet to bring up the i7! THEY ARE LATE [sad] (can't get a change log)
Wow, that was fast.
Let's see what the balefished changelog says ...
- Hall [tu] mode hour button fabrication functional support
- FLAC file tag browsing supports
- From part language mode Maine menu text the actual condition amendment which it piles up
* Hall [tu] mode hour button fabrication function
- When it sets/it selects the general/user just button/the hall [tu] condition set menu, it will be able to set + - button functions.
That sounds like there is improved FLAC tag support, and you can now set what the volume controls do when the player is in hold mode.
That sounds like there is improved FLAC tag support, and you can now set what the volume controls do when the player is in hold mode.
I think the firmware improves the key function as does the D2's...
Thanks for sharing!!
P.S. It's really limited in my English... feel so sorry about it... [blush]
GSV3MiaC
07-19-2007, 06:32
The 1.13 firmware allows you to set +/- to work when the unit is on hold, either as volume, or as fast forward/back. Sadly they didn't include the option to have anything (menu, for instance) to act as play/pause. Maybe next time. If someone has an inside track to the developers, feel free to suggest it.
1.13 also seems to have fixed the pitiful USB transfer rates, which seem to have more to do with the I7 file/folder handling (since deleting items from the I7 was equally pitifully slow before, when no transfer is required).
The player is getting more impressive .. now if they'll just fix the file limit. It plays .ogg at Q=-1 (~45 kb/s, VBR) so damn well that you could get 8000+ tracks on the 8GB model .. if it wasn't limited to 2,000. Flac .. who needs flac ... bleah!
How long does it take to delete a file? I would think a second or 2. Longer?
GSV3MiaC
07-20-2007, 06:14
It used to be a second or two - doesn't sound much, but when you have a hundred files it gets old real fast. it is now almost instantaneous. Same speed as on a local disk, basically.
AgamemnonZ
07-20-2007, 08:09
Woopidiwoo; Just received my iAudio 7.
I got version 1.10 so I want to upgade to 1.13. Question is:
How do I flash this thing? :D:D
Extract the firmware file in the zip folder to your i7s root folder. Then disconnect the player and start it. Wait for the firmware to update and turn on the player again, to see if you have successfully flashed your device.
AgamemnonZ
07-20-2007, 08:50
Extract the firmware file in the zip folder to your i7s root folder. Then disconnect the player and start it. Wait for the firmware to update and turn on the player again, to see if you have successfully flashed your device.
Ha, that went easy :D, thanks!
GSV3MiaC
07-20-2007, 09:21
Yep, that's how it ought to work, so we'll give them credit for that. And it doesn't even trash your music files 9though it does eat all the settings you had). How come the D2 is so, relatively, screwed up??
GSV3MiaC
07-20-2007, 12:12
The 1.13 firmware allows you to set +/- to work when the unit is on hold, either as volume, or as fast forward/back. Sadly they didn't include the option to have anything (menu, for instance) to act as play/pause. <snip>
Silly me, apparently this option was already there (as I discovered by accident). The player now gets my 'can be used in a pocket' seal of approval.
GSV, when you delete 100's of files, isn't it easier, in that case, to plug it in to your PC first so you can do it through Windows?
What's the list of improvements, I mean "changes", with the new firmware? Also, if I use the buttons normally reserved for volume for fast forward/rewind instead, how do I control the volume?
Hey, how can I change my "Junior Member" label to something else, like GSV did?
GSV3MiaC
07-20-2007, 15:17
GSV, when you delete 100's of files, isn't it easier, in that case, to plug it in to your PC first so you can do it through Windows?
I =WAS= plugged into my PC doing it through windows. That's why I was comparing the speed to a local disk delete. I never did try deleting files from the crazy GUI on the device, that'd take 5 seconds per file just in keystrokes.
Happily 1.13 has fixed it, but if you'd like to load up 1.12 or earlier you too can marvel over how poorly they implemented FAT32 file system handling.
As for changing your user description - same place you change your email address and other forum preferences. See 'userCP' at the top of this page? - well click on it. Then take 'edit profile'. Then you type 'wet behind the ears' into the first blank box, and press enter. 8>.
sickenmcsluggets
07-31-2007, 12:10
Silly me, apparently this option was already there (as I discovered by accident). The player now gets my 'can be used in a pocket' seal of approval.
Oh Man, I'm so lazy I wouldn't even have noticed these rockin' pocket features...I was missing this functionality from my Creative Zen Nano. Thanks for making some noise about it!
Has anyone tried using the ID3 music browsing mode yet? It appears to be pretty screwed up. After I turned it on and rebooted the player, it took at least 10 minutes to start up, and when it finally did, there were various problems in the browser, such as artists being listed 3 times and so on. I also have a D2, and exactly the same MP3s are handled fine by the ID3 browser on it. I was hoping Cowon might have had enough sense to copy the existing ID3 code from the D2 firmware but I guess not...
Why did you reboot in the first place, and were you able to resolve the ID3 tag issue?
GSV3MiaC
08-05-2007, 16:39
You have to reboot to go from file/folder browsing to ID3 tag browsing (presumably because the player builds its indices at boot time, and it needs a different set).
ID3 tag browsing just plain doesn't work with .ogg, and seems to have some issues even with MP3/WMA, so I currently have it down as 'broken, avoid'. 8<,
Why did you reboot in the first place, and were you able to resolve the ID3 tag issue?
Like GSV3 said, if you change the mode between file/ID3 browsing, it pops up a little message saying you need to reboot the player for the changes to take effect.
As for resolving the ID3 issues, I haven't even tried - I'm using exactly the same set of files as I had on my D2, and (with the latest firmware) it can handle them fine, so I'm not going to go and start editing tags for no good reason. The earlier D2 firmware versions had the same multiple artist entries problem, so it's not like they won't be able to fix it in the i7 firmware. Sooner rather than later I hope, but knowing Cowon... [rolleyes]
Lukekeeeee
08-05-2007, 21:03
ID3 tag browsing just plain doesn't work with .ogg, and seems to have some issues even with MP3/WMA, so I currently have it down as 'broken, avoid'. 8<,
what would these issues be? like multiple listed items? items not in numerical/alphabetical order?
GSV3MiaC
08-06-2007, 04:51
That's the sort of thing people have reported, here and elsewhere .. personally I try to avoid MP3 (sounds horrid at low bitrates) and .wma (just because it is M$ format), except for a few tests. .OGG is definitely completely broken.
GSV, what format do you recommend for use (on the iAudio 7, since that's the subect of this thread)?
GSV3MiaC
08-07-2007, 14:33
Depends what you have got in your collection, but if you are starting from scratch I find .ogg sounds best for any given bitrate .. however tag browsing is broken, if that matters to you.
Personally I find even Q=-1 .ogg (the lowest bitrate the device supports) sounds surprisingly good .. try it and see. If you are super picky, maybe Q=1. More than that may be wasted unless you have 11-year-old's ears.
One nice thing about .ogg is that you can just concatenate two .ogg files and get a joined up, gap free, bigger file (although the I7 firmware won't play when there are more than 8 or 10 bits joined together .. another buglet). This is real handy when you run into those file/folder limits, or if you decide some album just HAS to be played gapless.
VanessaValium
08-09-2007, 01:15
I have now upgraded my brand new Iaudio 7, but I cant see any of the mentioned new things....
Whats wrong?
Anyone?
That is: when having the keylock on - I canīt change volume etc...
Seems you did something wrong while upgrading. Did you reformat the player after installing the new firmware?
I have now upgraded my brand new Iaudio 7, but I cant see any of the mentioned new things....
Whats wrong?
Anyone?
That is: when having the keylock on - I canīt change volume etc...
You have to change it in the settings menu I think, it doesn't default to doing that.
Seems you did something wrong while upgrading. Did you reformat the player after installing the new firmware?
... which is completely unnecessary [confused]
K.
GSV3MiaC
08-10-2007, 15:21
I have now upgraded my brand new Iaudio 7, but I cant see any of the mentioned new things....
Whats wrong?
Anyone?
That is: when having the keylock on - I canīt change volume etc...
Go into settings, general, user defined button (way way down the list), set hold state. Pick the one you want. 'menu' is stop/pause and can't be changed.
they could use +/- for volume and together with hold for track skipping, so you can have both options at once.
but it seems cowon doesnt take care of things like that.
traum.a
What they should really do is go back to the controls they had on the iAudio 5 - just two 3-way rocker buttons, one on the top, one on the bottom. In normal music mode, the top one did ff/rew and pause/play, and the bottom one changed volume up/down. Simple, effective, easy to use in a pocket....I don't know why everyone thinks touch sensing is the way to go [thumbdwn]
GSV3MiaC
08-17-2007, 18:05
Probably because it is cheap to implement and has no moving parts.
Actually the I7 is not too hard to work in a pocket, as long as you don't need the volume adjusted as well as have skip forward/back .. if I'm playing a shuffled list, I generally just need stop, and volume adjust.
Probably because it is cheap to implement and has no moving parts.
Actually the I7 is not too hard to work in a pocket, as long as you don't need the volume adjusted as well as have skip forward/back .. if I'm playing a shuffled list, I generally just need stop, and volume adjust.
I'm happy enough with the i7 hardware buttons (they're certainly easier to distinguish by feel than the ones on the D2 at least), but I still prefer the iAudio 5 system, even for simple stuff like menu navigation. That sort of button can't be expensive to implement, and my iAudio 5 is still working quite nicely after several years. If I could just take the 8GB of memory from my i7 and cram it into the i5 somehow, I'd be quite happy to keep using it [biggrin]
Anyway, back on topic a bit - does anyone have any idea when the next firmware release for the i7 is coming? I see the D2 had one recently after a long period of no activity, so does the i7 have one coming too?
GSV3MiaC
08-17-2007, 18:50
I don't know about next firmware, but I'd sure like to get some. I note that the cowonglobal site STILL doesn't even have a pointer to 1.13 .. it does now have an 'FAQ' for the I7, but the Qs are completely trivial and the answers even less useful than that.
I think some support guy thought them up, because for sure no (sane) user is going to have asked those Qs 'frequently' about the I7.
My theory is they just have 1 poor guy responsible for all the firmware for all the players, and updating all the websites too, that's why everything happens so slowly!
GSV3MiaC
08-18-2007, 07:10
Nope, to screw things up that good you need a committee. A couple of pointy headed managers help too.
All these companies are generally the same when it comes to firmware. They release it knowing it has bugs then just think about fixing it later. Gits.
howdy all, with the i7 16gb due for release before the end of the month (UK) I was just wondering if the file/folder limit has been raised at all yet?
If only, that might indicate they actually had someone working on the firmware. The only indication I've found that they could be changed is here (http://www.cowonglobal.com/zeroboard/view.php?id=B15&page=1&sn1=&divpage=1&bmenu=B&category=20&sn=off&ss=on&sc=on&select_arrange=headnum&bmenu=B&desc=asc&no=487&bmenu=B): "(The maximum number of folders and files might be changed.)" [rolleyes]
it'll surely have to be upped, Cowon can't possibly release a severely limited 16gb i7, that would be suicide! silly emo Cowon :D
GSV3MiaC
08-19-2007, 15:29
The folder limit is already 400 or more (I tried 400, worked. I tried 650 .. died horribly .. this was back at 1.12). The file limit is still 2k (tried with 1.13, right recently). There are also silly limits on playlists, and problems shuffling more than 256 items in a Genre (I am told - Genre doesn't work at all for .ogg).
Of course no Cowon website even has a link to 1.12 or 1.13 yet (thank God for iAudiophile!).
Update: the 1.15 firmware now allows 6,000 files and more than 900 (I didn't find the limit yet) folders.
[QUOTE=GSV3MiaC;136714]The 1.13 firmware allows you to set +/- to work when the unit is on hold, either as volume, or as fast forward/back. Sadly they didn't include the option to have anything (menu, for instance) to act as play/pause. Maybe next time. If someone has an inside track to the developers, feel free to suggest it.
I installed FW 1.13 but I could not find how to set +/- to work when the unit is on hold ! Can anybody help ???[surrend]
Sorry, found it by myself in the forum.....
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