View Full Version : 2.50b released
Zeitgeist
06-07-2007, 03:03
Find it here: http://www.cowonglobal.com/download/Firmware/cowonD2/D2_2.50b.zip
:-)
Best Regards
Cyberdyskinesia
06-07-2007, 04:34
Heh! [biggrin]
Where did you know this from ?
pepepaco
06-07-2007, 04:38
What's the difference between 3.5b and 2.5b?
^ lol many many times this has been said. 3.XX inc dictionary 2.XX doesent.
how did u find this link ... i mean they havent posted any such update on the main cowon global page..??
öhm have you tested the FW? i can't find the FW on the original page?!
where do you have this link from?
Zeitgeist
06-07-2007, 05:07
Yes, the firmware works. I have already installed it (3-Step procedure) on my "german" D2.
Regarding the question where I have it from: I have just altered the links of the firmwares Cowon had already released on their global site. :-)
i.e. from http://www.cowonglobal.com/download/Firmware/cowonD2/D2_2.46.zip to http://www.cowonglobal.com/download/Firmware/cowonD2/D2_2.50b.zip
This is what I always do, if I am awaiting a file to be released. That's all, simple, isn't it? :-)
Best Regards.
Mantr0nix
06-07-2007, 05:10
Somewhere I read about people saying flashing a non-korean D2 (in this case a "european" D2) to 3.xx could damage the device. Is that true?
I like the idea of having a nice dictonary on my D2, my poor english will definitely benefit from that. But is it worth the risk?
EDIT:
lol do you know how to search? I have the impression that I reply on this question every day :/
1.xx - Korean Firmware for DMB capable D2's
2.xx - International Firmware
3.xx - Korean Firmware with a great Chambers Dictionary (my choice =D)
I suggest you isntalling the 3.xx if you are ever using English dictionaries or ar annoyed in a tram :)
P.S.: 3.xx is fully compatible with International players, 1.xx isn't!!!
OK, sometimes the search function is really helpful. [smile]
Is that seifip guy right? I'm really frightened to damage my brand-new precious D2.
AussiePie
06-07-2007, 05:19
^ There has been talk about the warranty being void if the 3.xx FW is flashed to an international D2 (2.xx FW version) but if you have any concerns it would be best to contact cowon and get a response from them (in your local area) to rectify this :)
*Good to see the 2.50b version here, hopefully it shouldn't be to long between the beta (2.50b) and the final 2.50 :)
Mantr0nix
06-07-2007, 05:31
AussiePie, so if the D2 gets damaged not by flashing the 3.xx fw but through other say "physical" means and i'm forced to send the device in for repair or exchange then i might get into trouble cuz I'm not allowed to run the 3.xx fw on my european D2. Did i get you right?
What concerns me is more the issue of damaging my european D2 by flashing the 3.xx fw. Can you confirm seifip's statement that only the 1.xx fw might damage the european D2 but the 3.xx will definitely NOT damage the european D2?
Cyberdyskinesia
06-07-2007, 05:31
Wasn't a fake : http://www.cowonglobal.com/zeroboard/zboard.php?id=C08&page=1&sn1=&divpage=1&bmenu=download&sn=off&ss=on&sc=on&select_arrange=headnum&bmenu=download&desc=asc&no=274&bmenu=download
AussiePie
06-07-2007, 05:44
I think the issue is more to do with bricking the player with the 3.xx FW and this could happen with any FW upgrade 1.xx, 2.xx and 3.xx but it is not the norm :)
The 1.xx has DMB and so includes FW aspects/functions that aren't available to the non-korean D2's and thus may cause a problem.
There are quite a few people here (from related FW 3.xx post's) that have had no problem with installing 3.xx on there non-korean units either going from 2.xx to 3.xx or 3.xx to 2.xx but i did read there was coments made about no warranty for those units with 2.xx insatlling 3.xx.
If you're concerned speak to the iAudio people in your area and ask about installing the 3.xx if they say its OK keep the email and try it and if it does brick they should be obligated to fix it for you, whether they send you the drivers needed or you send them the unit :)
is this the official 2.50 firmware , not the beta ?? !!!! what what is said in the cowon firmware upgrade page !!!
Never doubted it for a second, thank gawd.... time to update at last
it is the beta. if you klick on download, in the links is 2.50b. and on the installationhelp pictures even stands 2.50b
Mantr0nix
06-07-2007, 06:06
Thank you very much, AussiePie. I think I got it now. Flashing euro-D2 from 2.xx to 3.xx and vice versa most likely works. But if the device breaks through means of flashing procedure i got a problem if cowon didn't gave me green light to flash around like crazy.
Well, well ... very tricky situation. I think i'll stay with 2.xx for now. I can't even find the 400 mb file for that dictionary. That's somewhere hidden on the korean cowon website, right? Those korean characters look pretty funny and they save me from doing strange things to my D2. [smile]
Hey Mantr0nix, the full dictionary is here: http://dn.cowon.com/download/d2_dic/PowerDic_Full.zip
the lite version is here: http://dn.cowon.com/download/d2_dic/PowerDic_Lite.zip
Difference in size: 400mb full 20mb's lite
Difference between them, Full version has pronunciation support in korean.
Mantr0nix
06-07-2007, 06:28
Thank you, Dominic. Now the devil is back on my shoulder and i'm tempted again. [devil]
EDIT:
[...] Whatever you do dont install 3.45 as there as been problems with people bricking there players from it, including me.
[sad]
öhm, i think this FW is VERY buggy!!!! my 8GB SD card couldn't be read anymore and the ordners all are mixet and unnamed, it's only chaos on my D2 now
also the wallpaper couln't be saved. every reboot there is noch wallpaper anymore
Mantr0nix
06-07-2007, 07:57
I just upgrade to v2.50b. I merely got a 2 GB SD card (no SDHC card).
Background Pix work (after reboot too) and MP3, OGG, APE, AVI files play just fine, no folders look mixed up. So no such issues here.
Viper_Scull
06-07-2007, 08:34
2.50b installed. Step 1 and 2. All files deleted...dammm!! But it seems to work fine.
hmm, ok, i had no space left to let the D2 save the wallpaper ^^. but my SDHC card 8GB is found by the D2 but the folders on it have all no names , same as the songs and videos. ?? i try to refill my 8GB card now.
KromaXamorK
06-07-2007, 08:52
2.50b installed. Step 1 and 2. All files deleted...dammm!! But it seems to work fine.
Me too.
It seems to me that the sound is better with this firm.[blink]
Someone can confirm or unconfirm???
AussiePie
06-07-2007, 09:48
öhm, i think this FW is VERY buggy!!!! my 8GB SD card couldn't be read anymore and the ordners all are mixet and unnamed, it's only chaos on my D2 now
also the wallpaper couln't be saved. every reboot there is noch wallpaper anymore
Out of interset when you upgraded to 2.50b Shico did you have the SD card installed in the D2?
Blackroom
06-07-2007, 09:53
hmm, ok, i had no space left to let the D2 save the wallpaper ^^. but my SDHC card 8GB is found by the D2 but the folders on it have all no names , same as the songs and videos. ?? i try to refill my 8GB card now.
You have to keep some space on the D2´s internal memory so it can work properly. I think I heard something about 5% if I am not wrong.
öhm, i think this FW is VERY buggy!!!! my 8GB SD card couldn't be read anymore and the ordners all are mixet and unnamed, it's only chaos on my D2 now
hmm, ok, i had no space left to let the D2 save the wallpaper ^^. but my SDHC card 8GB is found by the D2 but the folders on it have all no names , same as the songs and videos. ?? i try to refill my 8GB card now.
In my case:
8gb adata class 2 SDHC card is detected. All files/folders detected, all have their tags, filenames etc...
ID3 database still not working for ogg vorbis.
Boot time is marginally faster (less than a second faster, judged by one less white loading circle [biggrin] )
Wallpaper is working A.OK
no, i had the SD card outside the D2 during the fw upgrade. aufter it i turn the card into D2 and all files on the card had no name (songs, videos, ordners). so i deleted all files on SDHC and copied them again on the card. now it works fine again. i wonder why there was a problem?! ok, it's a beta...
Simplyblue
06-07-2007, 10:02
Since doing only step 1 and 2 is not preventing wipes guess I'm going to have to backup my files.
Maxwell Smart
06-07-2007, 10:10
The 0-folder firmware has not changed from 2.46 to 2.50b:
$ md5sum D2_2.46/0/d2N.bin D2_2.50b/0/d2N.bin
1878811587f4a9099ca917fc19434bf3 D2_2.46/0/d2N.bin
1878811587f4a9099ca917fc19434bf3 D2_2.50b/0/d2N.bin
So as I understand it, "step 1" should not be necessary. Apparently it's only step 1 that toasts all the files in the on-board flash RAM.
Corrections welcome if I am mistaken.
Simplyblue
06-07-2007, 10:16
I just naturally assumed Viper_Scull skipped using folder 0. Maybe we just have our numbering system mixed up here.
But a couple people who did only use folders 1 & 2 for f/w 1.50/3.50 still had their files wiped out. But if the people who've updated their f/w to 2.50 can clarify this it would be great.
Thank you, Dominic. Now the devil is back on my shoulder and i'm tempted again. [devil]
"[...] Whatever you do dont install 3.45 as there as been problems with people bricking there players from it, including me."
[sad]
That was a problem with the specific FW... 3.45... Other versions 3.41, 3.50b etc are working just fine :)
That was a problem with the specific FW... 3.45... Other versions 3.41, 3.50b etc are working just fine :)
All the same if the firmware is not supposed to go on your D2 and you fear voiding your warranty you should wait until others have tested it.... Of course the 3.50b has been out for a bit now with no bricking reported so we can assume it to be safe.
Simplyblue
06-07-2007, 11:24
I just naturally assumed Viper_Scull skipped using folder 0. Maybe we just have our numbering system mixed up here.
But a couple people who did only use folders 1 & 2 for f/w 1.50/3.50 still had their files wiped out. But if the people who've updated their f/w to 2.50 can clarify this it would be great.
Ok just upgraded to 2.50b with just folders 1 & 2 and it wiped all my files. Good thing I decided to backup. [biggrin]
In my case:
8gb adata class 2 SDHC card is detected. All files/folders detected, all have their tags, filenames etc...
Before I attempted this, I wanted to make sure my 8Gb SDHC card would be recognized properly.
Good news.
ok, ich had upgradet from 3.45b to 2.50b an now all works very fine. the only bad thing i had to do is not only backup the files on the D2. i had to format the 8GB card and copy these files again on the card. no idee why, but the D2 couldn't read the files anymore after upgrade..
Mantr0nix
06-07-2007, 12:44
That was a problem with the specific FW... 3.45... Other versions 3.41, 3.50b etc are working just fine :)
That means that the v3.45 fw actually damaged all D2s out there, no matter if european, korean, american, ... ? Or does it mean that v3.45 was just fine for certain D2s? Maybe it crashed only the black ones but runs perfectly on the red and green ones with the white D2s merely get the batteries exploded?
Oh man, that's too much confusion ... [confused]
All the same if the firmware is not supposed to go on your D2 and you fear voiding your warranty you should wait until others have tested it.... Of course the 3.50b has been out for a bit now with no bricking reported so we can assume it to be safe.
It's not excatly the voided warranty. If only I would know what I'm doing when fueling my cuty white nurse with some strange v3.xx-00011110100101. Maybe she really doesn't like this very sequence of 0 and 1. But she simply doesn't tell me beforehand. I guess i'll wait till shes old and grey and then she'll get the nasty v3.xx-00011110100101.
^ i dont think you should worry so much. i updated to fw 3.45 long ago and it worked perfectly for me. I think the problem was the amout of space the D2 had left on internal memory to work, or it may had been a major fw error. ive gone from version 3.xx to 2.xx and vice versa many times and no problems.
Also with the recovery module out there for the public your not to worry. When switching to and from 3.xx and 2.xx just make sure you also install the contents of folder 0 in the fw upgrade. otherwise use 1,2.
Mantr0nix
06-07-2007, 13:12
Allright, addz, now you have me. After i consumed all those funny greenish substances scattered on my desk, i will have the courage and willing to put the v3.50b straight into my lil white beauty.
Thank you. And wish me good luck. [smile]
now there's a page for it in Cowon's website:
http://www.cowonglobal.com/zeroboard/zboard.php?id=C08&page=1&sn1=&divpage=1&bmenu=download&sn=off&ss=on&sc=on&select_arrange=headnum&bmenu=download&desc=asc&no=274&bmenu=download
im sorry but i dont know how anyone can use the current x.50b fw. there is a major play function error. When i play a tune, pause it then browse to play another tune (click on it to play), it just resumes the tune i was origionally playing. i have yet to find a way to play another tune with using the back and forth buttons.
anyone else having this problem, it cant just be me.
Why bother with the music functionality when i can now play ****in games all day :|
Not just you, me too... thats why I'm reverting to 2.46....
Mantr0nix
06-07-2007, 15:40
Here the same.
What was it again with x.50b? Only Flash Player?
Cyberdyskinesia
06-07-2007, 15:44
2.46 was affected as well, how hadn't you noticed it ?
2.46 was affected as well, how hadn't you noticed it ?
Not for me it wasn't.
Mantr0nix
06-07-2007, 17:21
Same with v3.50b (yes, i did it [smile])
Please, COWON, stop adding toys for now. Please fix those bugs. [wacko]
Simplyblue
06-07-2007, 17:29
Ugh I hope they fix it soon. No problems switching to another song as long as you let the current song play, but I guess pausing and the playing another song is not working.
PS: Where does one go to report bugs? I can't seem to find a official Cowon link/thread that tracks known bugs with firmware/products?
GSV3MiaC
06-07-2007, 18:25
To report bugs I usually use the forum/tech support areas over at
http://www.cowonglobal.com/
Sometimes you get a useful response, sometimes less so.
Simplyblue
06-07-2007, 21:06
To report bugs I usually use the forum/tech support areas over at
http://www.cowonglobal.com/
Sometimes you get a useful response, sometimes less so.
Thanks. I don't know if anybody else reported the issue with pausing/playing tunes, but I just submitted it.
guventr23
06-07-2007, 21:47
There is a volume related bug in firmware 2.50b.
From Volume 34 To 35 and 35 To 34 and Also between 40 from/to 41 there is an abnormal situation.The increase and decrease between these volumes are not normal. It sounds Like crackle when you volume up or down between these volume numbers.
[thumbdwn] [thumbdwn] [thumbdwn] [thumbdwn]
After playing with the new firmware for a few nights...
1) the shuffle is MUCH better
2) playing flash clips is not perfect by all means... if too many subjects appear on the screen at one time... the clip will lag... pressing the M button locks up the player and you have to use the reset button to use the player once again
3)class 4 8 gig sdhc card works perfectly
Simplyblue
06-08-2007, 01:48
Well got a standard reply to the bug report I sent to them about the issue with playing/pausing tunes -
Your message has been reported to our research team, and they will check out the problem that you mentioned. If the problem you mentioned is fixed, it will be noticed on our website. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause you, and we kindly request your understanding
guventr23
06-08-2007, 06:21
There is a volume related bug in firmware 2.50b.
From Volume 34 To 35 and 35 To 34 and Also between 40 from/to 41 there is an abnormal situation.The increase and decrease between these volumes are not normal. It sounds Like crackle when you volume up or down between these volume numbers.
[thumbdwn] [thumbdwn] [thumbdwn] [thumbdwn]
Is there anyone who realize this bug??? I think it was not on Fw 2.46. I did not downgrade but what about this problem?[confused]
jcgamer60
06-08-2007, 07:03
Is there anyone who realize this bug??? I think it was not on Fw 2.46. I did not downgrade but what about this problem?[confused]
I have 2.46 and i only hear the crackle when switching between 40 and 41.
ManchesterBaby
06-08-2007, 11:14
I think this firmware is getting pretty good, especially when you consider it's a beta. The shuffle is now fantastic, which was my main concern before, the boot time is much improved (especially when altering non-music files eg radio presets or notepad files) and most other things 'work'. Some of the added features are exceptionally useful, such as the id3 browsing with a single database for the internal memory and the SD card.
There's still a few bugs most notably the lack of track ordering for ogg files and the pause/browse thing (though that can be bypassed by just not pausing - browse selection works fine if a song is playing). There's a few 'missing features' (which are not really bugs - bugs are present features that don't work properly in my opinion) such as the lack of the latest flac support etc.
In general i think it's getting pretty good. It's a far cry from just a couple of months ago that's for sure. Not perfect yet - but it is still a beta.
There is a volume related bug in firmware 2.50b.
From Volume 34 To 35 and 35 To 34 and Also between 40 from/to 41 there is an abnormal situation.The increase and decrease between these volumes are not normal. It sounds Like crackle when you volume up or down between these volume numbers.
[thumbdwn] [thumbdwn] [thumbdwn] [thumbdwn]
I noticed this also on both 2.46 and 2.50b fw. It makes a makes a big jump (increase / decrease in volume) with a little static noise.
henrycow
06-08-2007, 12:25
I agree with manchesterbaby - the shuffle is fixed, it's a beautiful day, life is good !
Taustin Powers
06-09-2007, 11:14
Well, I finally received my D2, installed 2.50b and copied all my music, and I am starting to play around with it.
First thing I noticed - You cannot add albums to the DPL? When I highlight an album, click on "Add To DPL", nothing happens. It only works with individual songs.
Has it been like this for all firmwares, or is this new?
It should work in folder view but the impression I get is that it has never worked in ID3 view
Personally i don't like ID3 view. For me directory view is as natural as browsing files on PC.
Anyone know what this means?
"Support 1.5x and 2x font size"
See that as one of the new features. I don't see any option to change the font size
it ups the text size on .txt files...
Mantr0nix
06-09-2007, 17:31
it ups the text size on .txt files...
Yap, but looks very pixelated. But kinda does the job.
Today i came across still no proper OGG tag browsing (though MP3 tags work). COWON, please fix OGG tags browsing and FLAC 1.1.4 support. Thank you.
Astrophysics
06-09-2007, 20:11
Confirmed. The Maxst font's patch still works with this latest 2.50b beta firmware.
I am happy! [smile]
My eyes are bad though. I wish the fonts were even larger. Can anybody here work on this? It would be greatly appreciated!
I have the i6, and thought the fonts would be larger than they are on the D2. With my A2 though, I can read them just fine. I don't dare put the A2 in my pocket though... [wacko]
I use ogg vorbis and with 2.5b adding an album using the dpl works...
Taustin Powers
06-10-2007, 12:29
Which id3 tag version do I need to use in order to have the D2 recognize the track numbers, and display the album tracks in the correct order?
(and when will they start just supporting all versions...??)
I tag and add album art to my MP3s with Tag&Rename, and never had any problems whatsoever. It uses ID3v2.3, AFAIK.
Taustin Powers
06-10-2007, 13:00
Most of my tags are v2.2, added by iTunes (Mac User) when ripping cd's. Everything works exept for track order.
EDIT: I also have a handful of v2.3's, and those display in Korean.
Hi there
I have upgraded the new beta, but the problem is it always crashes. There is no certain issue that i could see but time to time it restarts or hangs d2.
Hope they would make the normal release faster.
It is really a shame that Cowon makes bad software!! Even the sound is best, this problems makes people wont buy cowon
Simplyblue
06-11-2007, 09:33
Hi there
I have upgraded the new beta, but the problem is it always crashes. There is no certain issue that i could see but time to time it restarts or hangs d2.
Hope they would make the normal release faster.
It is really a shame that Cowon makes bad software!! Even the sound is best, this problems makes people wont buy cowon
I haven't had an issue after upgrading to 2.50b and I've watched videos, listened to music and played flash games regularly. You might want to diagnose what exactly is causing your restarts/freezes.
it is strange but no clue. I have deleted some mp3s that has problems.
Now it is not that much often, once a day.
But I hope they will release the official version soon.
Flash player, notepad? do we really need this toy applications? I dont think so. We have bought this thing to feel the quality of music and video, not for dict,notepad or flash options.
Cowon should stop bothering us with these unnecessary toys and fix these damn bugs. I love my pmp :(((
Simplyblue
06-13-2007, 08:27
Well it is a beta release so glitches are expected. If you didn't have as many issues running the 2.46 firmware then maybe you should downgrade till they release a more stable version.
jcgamer60
06-13-2007, 09:24
Will cowon ever add an option to delete music from id3 browsing? Really, is that too much to ask?
harbottle
06-14-2007, 06:43
Will cowon ever add an option to delete music from id3 browsing? Really, is that too much to ask?
No, but they add utterly pointless (And unusable) things like "Flash" support.
Idiots. What a waste of money.
james.miller
06-14-2007, 10:45
No, but they add utterly pointless (And unusable) things like "Flash" support.
Idiots. What a waste of money.
of course. arguable the best flash player on the market is 'a waste of money'.
Harbottle means Flash Lite support, I suppose, not the fact that it's a flash memory player. And I agree that Cowon firmware programmers have messed up priorities.
As a brand-new D2 user, I'm very happy with the player and also the improvements of the 2.50b firmware, but I find it very annoying that you are unable to delete some files. From a programmer's point of view, if you program a file system and each file is an object, how is it possible that you give some files the method to be deleted and others not? That's crazy. I hope they fix at least this[confused]
baradona
06-14-2007, 17:30
Harbottle means Flash Lite support, I suppose, not the fact that it's a flash memory player. And I agree that Cowon firmware programmers have messed up priorities.
I third that
neoxerxes
06-14-2007, 23:30
How I currently see it in regards to the priorities of Cowon, is that they have said "hey, let's think of something that most other devices don't have (i.e. flash support) and get prospective buyers in the door." However, this logic means that once those people make the purchase, they are stuck basically waiting for a fully functioning MP3 player (I would say this would be its main function, and then video playback). Fully functioning means that everything works just like on other players. This appears to be disappointing.
harbottle
06-15-2007, 05:03
of course. arguable the best flash player on the market is 'a waste of money'.
I didn't buy a "flash" player - I bought a music/movie player. I have no interest in playing games or applications. And it's one of the most unusable pieces of crap I've ever used. The software team at Cowon need a kick up the arse, as does whoever does their testing.
harbottle
06-15-2007, 05:04
How I currently see it in regards to the priorities of Cowon, is that they have said "hey, let's think of something that most other devices don't have (i.e. flash support) and get prospective buyers in the door." However, this logic means that once those people make the purchase, they are stuck basically waiting for a fully functioning MP3 player (I would say this would be its main function, and then video playback). Fully functioning means that everything works just like on other players. This appears to be disappointing.
Out of interest, I stuck a "flash" game on the player, and due to the touch screen it was unplayable anyway - and looked like something from the old days of the ZX Spectrum/Commodore 64.
I didn't buy a "flash" player - I bought a music/movie player. I have no interest in playing games or applications. And it's one of the most unusable pieces of crap I've ever used. The software team at Cowon need a kick up the arse, as does whoever does their testing.
He meant flash as in flash memory.
Relax
Simplyblue
06-15-2007, 08:51
I'm wondering that if each one of us reported the same bugs to Cowon Global whether it would make a difference? Maybe we should make a list of bugs and have all of us submit it with the wording changed?
I already sent them a long list, asking (politely) when they are going to fix it... that was 2 weeks ago, no answer yet...
Simplyblue
06-15-2007, 12:46
That's a start. But imagine if a lot of people reported the same bugs and request for fixes over and over again. I'm sure that would have greater impact.
I already sent them a long list, asking (politely) when they are going to fix it... that was 2 weeks ago, no answer yet...
that's weird. i'm getting answers to my questions, suggestions, bug reports day after i send it
I think that the D2 is more intended as a test-platform for future players, a place for programmers to toy around with new features and see if we like them, I could be wrong.
I think that the D2 is more intended as a test-platform for future players, a place for programmers to toy around with new features and see if we like them, I could be wrong.
That's nice... but they should find another playground - not the player I paid more than $200 for (and expect to work for audio and video playback).
that's weird. i'm getting answers to my questions, suggestions, bug reports day after i send it
I sent my long mail to the most incompetent branch of the company, Cowon America. Maybe I should also make an account on Cowon Global, and send the same mail again.
Yes, do not send anything to Cowon America...
Sign up for an acct. on cowon global and use the tech support forum/email there. You get very quick responses.
grouchofan
06-17-2007, 04:02
As my new D2 still has version 2.21 on it, I was willing to upgrade it but after reading your posts I'm not so sure... [unsure]
What should I do? [confused]
henrycow
06-17-2007, 05:33
2.21 is a stable firmware, but you don't get the ability to choose button mode in hold status, and the video / audio sync is right out. apart from that, the shuffle works good, and the next firmware that gets shuffle right is 2.50b. IMHO anything between 2.21 and 2.50b is a waste of time...
grouchofan
06-17-2007, 05:57
2.21 is a stable firmware, but you don't get the ability to choose button mode in hold status, and the video / audio sync is right out. apart from that, the shuffle works good, and the next firmware that gets shuffle right is 2.50b. IMHO anything between 2.21 and 2.50b is a waste of time...
thank you for your reply [smile]
maybe I could give a chance to 2.50b.. but if I should want to return to 2.21 how could I do? on cowon site I can't find this firmware version and on my player I can't see the files in order to save them (I hope you understand what I'm trying so say as my english is not perfect [blush] )
I'm a little hesitant to upgrade too. I have a brand new D2 with FW2.41. Everything works great for me! I just had a very very bad experience with a Zen V Plus updating firmware and do not wish to repeat it.
Reading the posts here and the fact that 2.50b is beta makes me scared. I'm just sooo happy to have a working player that doesn't freeze up and hooks up to my computer without any errors. [biggrin]
I don't really need flash games, dictionary, shuffle and a notepad. Is there anything else I'm missing? For now, I think I'll stick with 2.41 and hold out for the official non-beta firmware.
grouchofan
06-17-2007, 07:02
another question: along with firmware 2.45 and 2.46 there where 2 kind of instructions (for V2.41 users and for earlier v2.41 users).. in V2.50b instructions this distinction is no longer present..
do they assume that everybody has v2.41 already installed??
do I have to install V2.41 before installing v2.50b??
[confused] [confused]
sorry for these (maybe stupid) questions but, as I don't want to mess up my devices, upgrading firmwares is an operation that makes me always nervous.. [rolleyes]
I was wondering the same thing. The wording is very confusing like:
(for V2.41 users and for earlier v2.41 users)
Are there two versions of 2.41? Do they mean versions before 2.41? Something is lost in the translation.
.. in V2.50b instructions this distinction is no longer present.. do they assume that everybody has v2.41 already installed?? do I have to install V2.41 before installing v2.50b??
My experience with other gear's firmware updates is if they don't state it, then you don't need to update with the prior version first. Just go from the version you have. Most cases I've come across, it is "usually" taken care of in the most recent update.
I'm with you though, it is very confusing [wacko] Einstein's quote in my signature is coincidently relative in this case.[wink]
grouchofan
06-17-2007, 11:30
Do they mean versions before 2.41?
I think so..
My experience with other gear's firmware updates is if they don't state it, then you don't need to update with the prior version first. Just go from the version you have. Most cases I've come across, it is "usually" taken care of in the most recent update.
but if for previous firmwares there were 2 kinds of instructions, why shouldn't be there also for this one... [wacko] call me a chicken but until I find out I won't install 2.50b [no]
Einstein's quote in my signature is coincidently relative in this case.[wink]
[yes] [yes] .. [laugh] [laugh]
I sent my long mail to the most incompetent branch of the company, Cowon America. Maybe I should also make an account on Cowon Global, and send the same mail again.
At cowongloabal, I tried to sign up and it seemed to have gone through OK, but I never received the email message with my registration info and password.
I tried to re-register, but it now says "email already registered".
Tried to choose change password, it says password change sent to [my email address], never got it. This was 24hrs. ago.
Anyone have an issue registering on Cowon's site? Without this log in, you really can't post issues/comments, etc.
ok, im getting a bit annoyed here, transcend Class6 SDHC card, player sometimes hands when chaning sond from the card,
Anyone have an issue registering on Cowon's site?
Me too. I registered and never got the confirmation email. I haven't pursued it any further yet. Maybe try a different email address?
Maybe try a different email address?
Yes. Helped in my case.
dreaming
06-18-2007, 00:27
The email thing has happened to me with a few different site confirmation emails. Once, it took like 2 weeks. Another time, it ended up in my spam folder after about an hour. So i guess just keep a lookout.
Also from my experience, this happens more from the more well known free email providers, like yahoo etc. So like MaxSt said, try a different email provider if it doesn't show up anywhere after a while.
i can see that the official firmware 2.50 took a while to get released , now i have doubts that it will be released .
ManchesterBaby
06-18-2007, 09:06
Is there a way, other than through the standard support channels, to sent beta-firmware bug reports to cowon? I.e. a dedicated bug report method/address for beta firmware only? If not, why not? Surely the only point in reasing beta firmware to the public is to allow some extra testing before the final version is released. If there's no easy way for the public to report back then what's the point?
yeah where is our 2.5x final release, its been a while now.... hope cowon aren't doing there historical hit and run...
ManchesterBaby
06-18-2007, 09:49
It's only been just over 1 and 2 weeks for 2.50b and 1/3.50b respectively. Not all that long really. (x.46 was released quite rapidly after x.35b, possibly due to the occasional bricking the latter caused.) I'd be suprised if 1/3.50 final wasn't out by this time next week however...
Feels a hell of a lot longer, I thought 3.50 was out 3+weeks ago?
.....Your right, its been 2ish weeks since 3.50b's release, it felt long to tell you the truth :(
Yes x.46 was released to counter the numerous brickages.
The email thing has happened to me with a few different site confirmation emails. Once, it took like 2 weeks. Another time, it ended up in my spam folder after about an hour. So i guess just keep a lookout.
Also from my experience, this happens more from the more well known free email providers, like yahoo etc. So like MaxSt said, try a different email provider if it doesn't show up anywhere after a while.
Yea, I was using Yahoo, I will try another ,thanks all.
Regarding firmware version 2.50, I think it went beta a little under two weeks ago, so hopefully by the end of the week, it will have gone final.
I already sent them a long list, asking (politely) when they are going to fix it... that was 2 weeks ago, no answer yet...
Got an "answer" today: [rolleyes]
This information has been forwarded to our D2 firmware development team.
Thank you,
Cowon America Inc.
im expecting some big ass fixes in the non beta with a wait this long.
I guess we are spoiled with Cowons' quick fw upgrades.
naylor83
06-25-2007, 15:18
im expecting some big ass fixes in the non beta with a wait this long.
I guess we are spoiled with Cowons' quick fw upgrades.
Oh, yes! How wonderful 'twere if they made oggs play in album order and 1.1.4 Flacs work...
Oh, yes! How wonderful 'twere if they made oggs play in album order and 1.1.4 Flacs work...
Are you referring to making tags in 1.1.4 format work correctly, rather than a functional enhancement?
- wader
naylor83
06-25-2007, 23:50
Are you referring to making tags in 1.1.4 format work correctly, rather than a functional enhancement?
- wader
I don't use Flacs myself (yet) but I've heard they won't play if they're compressed using version 1.1.4.
apparently that's fixed in the latest asian firmware, so it'll be fixed in the international firmware when its released.
Jayceon Carter
06-30-2007, 16:03
What about Vista support in the 2.50b firmware? I currently use 2.46 which somehow isn't compatible with Vista. The older 2.30 (which came with my D2) was, however.
I only have Vista PC's at home, so I only have a 2 GB SD card for my music and have to deal with the music I copied on the internal memory a while ago. ;)
So... I don't want to go back to any older firmware, since I use the notepad functionality a lot and I want to use my 8 GB SDHC card. The problem however is that Vista doesn't recognize my D2 with 2.46 and so I have to use a XP machine to either access my D2 or flash it with a newer version. But I don't want to flash to a beta, unless it has Vista support.
So can anyone help me out on this one?
What about Vista support in the 2.50b firmware? I currently use 2.46 which somehow isn't compatible with Vista. The older 2.30 (which came with my D2) was, however.
I only have Vista PC's at home, so I only have a 2 GB SD card for my music and have to deal with the music I copied on the internal memory a while ago. ;)
So... I don't want to go back to any older firmware, since I use the notepad functionality a lot and I want to use my 8 GB SDHC card. The problem however is that Vista doesn't recognize my D2 with 2.46 and so I have to use a XP machine to either access my D2 or flash it with a newer version. But I don't want to flash to a beta, unless it has Vista support.
So can anyone help me out on this one?
I run 2.46 with an 8Gb SDHC card on my PC, and I run Vista, and Vista has no issues seeing both the card and the device, and assignes them drive letters. I don't do MTP (although the OS recognizes it), but use MSC with Vista (MSC works with most flavors of Windows, Mac and Linux) and should pick up the D2 without an issue, as MSC is a removable disk type protocal.
Have you gone into device manager in Windows (right click Computer on your desktop, choose Device Manager in the upper left corner of the window) and see if you see any exclaimation points or arrows near any entry?
Also, do you use MSC or MTP mode?
bartgrefte
07-01-2007, 05:07
hi,
does the 2.50(b) have the shuffle fixed? The shuffle of 2.41 is repeating songs a lot...
What about wavpack and/or playlists support?
Jayceon Carter
07-01-2007, 05:46
I run 2.46 with an 8Gb SDHC card on my PC, and I run Vista, and Vista has no issues seeing both the card and the device, and assignes them drive letters. I don't do MTP (although the OS recognizes it), but use MSC with Vista (MSC works with most flavors of Windows, Mac and Linux) and should pick up the D2 without an issue, as MSC is a removable disk type protocal.
Have you gone into device manager in Windows (right click Computer on your desktop, choose Device Manager in the upper left corner of the window) and see if you see any exclaimation points or arrows near any entry?
Also, do you use MSC or MTP mode?
I didn't knew about the MSC and MTP modes, but I found out that it was using MTP mode. It said "MTP-device" in the device manager with an exclamation point.
Now I've set it to MSC mode, it was instantly recognized and both the D2 and the SDHC card work. So thanks a lot!
I didn't knew about the MSC and MTP modes, but I found out that it was using MTP mode. It said "MTP-device" in the device manager with an exclamation point.
Now I've set it to MSC mode, it was instantly recognized and both the D2 and the SDHC card work. So thanks a lot!
I am surprised MTP is giving you that error, as this protocol is built into Vista. Oh well, it's working, that's a good thing. I don't use subscription music services, so I have no reason to use MTP. I always preferred MSC anyway.
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