D2 freezes upon trying to play FLAC files

[superboo]

I'm in the process of converting a lot of my music to FLAC. My D2 is using FW 3.41. I browse to my music and oddly, the player won't recognize my proper flac tags, so i have to go to "all" or "unknown" to find my music. once i select a song, it goes to the playback control screen and locks indefinitely. i am able to manually turn it off. if i turn it back on and play an mp3 instead, there's no problem whatsoever.

since i discovered the problem, i've re-loaded 3.41, switched to 2.41, and now back to 3.4; all to no avail. 128-320kbps mp3's are no problem. i'm not using an SD/SDHC card and i've tried when there was as much as 1.5gb on the D2 and as little as one 27mb flac track. here's the basic rip info for one of the tracks i'm trying to play:

EAC extraction logfile from 6. April 2007, 17:52 for CD
Ninch Inch Nails / Year Zero

Used drive : PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D Adapter: 0 ID: 0
Read mode : Secure with NO C2, accurate stream, disable cache
Read offset correction : 48
Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out : No

Used output format : C:\Program Files\Exact Audio Copy\flac.exe (User Defined Encoder)
128 kBit/s
Additional command line options : -8 -A tukey(0.25) -A gauss(0.1875) -b 4096 -V -T "artist=%a" -T "title=%t" -T "album=%g" -T "date=%y" -T "tracknumber=%n" -T "genre=%m" %s --sector-align

Other options :
Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes
Delete leading and trailing silent blocks : No
Installed external ASPI interface

Track 3
Filename X:\Music\Nine Inch Nails - Year Zero - 2007\03 - Ninch Inch Nails - Survivalism.wav

Peak level 100.0 %
Track quality 100.0 %
Test CRC ED1C22F2
Copy CRC ED1C22F2
Copy OK

No errors occured


End of status report

any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks.

[superboo]

doesn't work with 2.21 either...

[Dominic]

flac version?

[superboo]

flac version?

1.1.4 i believe. at least 1.1.3

[superboo]

ok, i finally got my d2 to play a flac track :note, the ones from earlier still don't work. a different rip worked for me:. i'm guessing it has something to do with the flac decoder in the d2 not being compatible with newer tracks that were giving me trouble earlier.

oddly enough, the flac decoder in the a2 firmware that was released at the same time as the d2 3.41/2.41 firmwares is clearly named as 1.1.4 in the changelog: "Upgrade FLAC decoder to version 1.1.4". but in the d2's firmware changelog, it simply states: "Fixed the error that does not read FLAC files".

i'm hoping it's just a matter of them updating the decoder in the next firmware update. otherwise i'm gonna be pretty salty.

[addz]

this should be your problem:

Assuming your using EAC you are using the following command line option:

-8 -A tukey(0.25) -A gauss(0.1875) -b 4096 -V -T "artist=%a" -T "title=%t" -T "album=%g" -T "date=%y" -T "tracknumber=%n" -T "genre=%m" %s --sector-align

-8 : this indicates the flac level, i have tried this level and the D2 does not play it. I recommend changing it to either -2 or -5, which should work. There is no real difference except minor file sizes and minor minor battery time usage.

As for browsing your music, unfortunally D2 doesent recongise the ID tags of flac (yet), so it will only appear in folder view.

[superboo]

this should be your problem:

Assuming your using EAC you are using the following command line option:

-8 -A tukey(0.25) -A gauss(0.1875) -b 4096 -V -T "artist=%a" -T "title=%t" -T "album=%g" -T "date=%y" -T "tracknumber=%n" -T "genre=%m" %s --sector-align

-8 : this indicates the flac level, i have tried this level and the D2 does not play it. I recommend changing it to either -2 or -5, which should work. There is no real difference except minor file sizes and minor minor battery time usage.

As for browsing your music, unfortunally D2 doesent recongise the ID tags of flac (yet), so it will only appear in folder view.

thanks addz. when you say difference in size/battery time. is -2 or -5 better in that sense? is one more compatible than the other? also, would i be able to just take the tracks i already have ripped and convert them?

[addz]

i dont know too much about the specifics of the levels.

- all i can say is that flac level 8 is higher compressed then flac level 0.
- they also relate to encoding times, so 0 would be faster to encode then 8.
- tbh i aint too sure about the specifics of battery consumption.
- a flac 0 file would be slighly larger then a flac 8 encoded file (although i have not tested this myself)

- Concerning your already ripped flac files, i dont know about converting these, its probably possible with dBpowerAMP with the Flac codec plugin on there website, it might let you encode your level 8 (assuming) flac files to a level which will work on the D2. (im not too sure if these will change audio quality)

- whereas for some, if you still have the origional CD, you might just want to rip to flac again from the CD.

Take a peak at : http://www.teqnilogik.com/tutorials/eac.htm#CompressionOptionsFLAC
for more informaiton.

[Agca]

I have all music files encoded with flac level 8 and my D2(FW2.41) play them without problem. I use the flac encoder in version 1.1.3, because I heard about some issues with version 1.1.4 and freezing of D2 when you're trying to play them... Thus try to encode your music with older version of flac encoder...

[superboo]

I have all music files encoded with flac level 8 and my D2(FW2.41) play them without problem. I use the flac encoder in version 1.1.3, because I heard about some issues with version 1.1.4 and freezing of D2 when you're trying to play them... Thus try to encode your music with older version of flac encoder...

but now that my music is already ripped, how can i fix the files i already have? or will a future firmware likely address this issue?

[Agca]

but now that my music is already ripped, how can i fix the files i already have? or will a future firmware likely address this issue?

Try to decode one flac track to wav and then encode back to flac, but in version 1.1.3. Then try it in player, whether playback is all right... If not, problem is somewhere else...

I think, next FW will solve this problem and a bug with flac tags too... I hope.

[matrixen]

Got my D2 yesterday. Loaded it with FLAC 1.1.4-encoded files. Compression level 0 works perfectly in firmware 2.41 and 3.45b. Levels 5 (considered to be default) and 8 both do not work - black screen and reboot, with all EQ settings lost. Seems to be the issue with decompression. Looks like we have to wait for the next f/w release to correct this issue and tags problem as well...[cry]

[AussiePie]

From memory there was a post that listed 1.1.4 working with levels 0,1,2 (maybe 3 as well) but other higher levels freezing up the D2, this could be addressed in the later FW as its most likely decoding associated :)