View Full Version : D2 video conversion methods
Captain Ødegård
02-17-2007, 07:45
Please use this thread to post everything you have concerning video conversion for the D2.
Here's what I have so far:
*When using jetaudio, some files (both avi and wmv) have sync issues, others are just fine.
*When using imtoo 3gp convertor set to make 320x240 pix divX, the player reads it just fine, however the progress hows the video to be two and a half times as long, so jumping to another point in the video means you have to only point to the first 2/5 of the progress bar or it will restart.
*I just ripped a Family Guy episode using gordian rip pack, 320x240 pix xvid format with 128kbs cbr audio and about 130MB file size. Perfect quality, no sync issues whatsoever
*After testing DVD rips directly to xvid using gordian knot, I'm even more amazed with the video quality. If you know how to do that, do it!
i took some screens, the camera fucks it sooooo bad but still, im sure you know how cameras fuck up screens so you can manage to "reconvert" the pictures in your head
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q187/Cptnodegard/PICT0362.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q187/Cptnodegard/PICT0357.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q187/Cptnodegard/PICT0348.jpg
Also made a video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=zBhV0hDC8nE
Last, a converted clip for you people to put on the D2. It's a rip i did some months ago, reconverted to D2 using jetaudio, so not a sraight to d2 rip, but still very good quality! Clip is a short scrat scene from Ice Age [yes]
http://rapidshare.com/files/17047740/Ice_Age_End_Scene.avi.html
just a tip! Using the Jetaudio xvid avi preset will make the family guy episode just 100MB and there wont be any sync probs... I think Jet audio is a very good conversion Software... d2 schould be fixed...
Another Software is TPMG express
I use mencoder, as I detailed here (http://iaudiophile.net/forums/showpost.php?p=111393&postcount=4).
Rouge8, have you managed to get a higher bit rate to work?
I've used virtual dub and the handheld xvid profile (max 537 kbps). If I use another profile then I get a blank screen.
Jet Audio can encode up to around 800 kbps and there is a 1.5Mbps setting so it can handle a higher bit rate. I just can't get a higher one to work.
Any ideas?
Please post your methods for coonverting videoes so we can make a nice little faq with it all [biggrin]
just a tip! Using the Jetaudio xvid avi preset will make the family guy episode just 100MB and there wont be any sync probs... I think Jet audio is a very good conversion Software... d2 schould be fixed...
Another Software is TPMG express
i use jetaudio it works perfect!
yeah jet audio works perfect but the D2 does not!
Captain Ødegård
02-17-2007, 10:41
Hmm i have no problems on the D2 that i dont have on the computer :/
I use mencoder, as I detailed here (http://iaudiophile.net/forums/showpost.php?p=111393&postcount=4).
Rouge8, have you managed to get a higher bit rate to work?
I've used virtual dub and the handheld xvid profile (max 537 kbps). If I use another profile then I get a blank screen.
Jet Audio can encode up to around 800 kbps and there is a 1.5Mbps setting so it can handle a higher bit rate. I just can't get a higher one to work.
Any ideas?
Captain Ødegård
02-17-2007, 22:03
Anyone out there with D2, try to rip a dvd straight to xvid using gordian knot rip pack. Preferably a 3d animation movie. i did the end scene from ice age and the movie madagascar, the quality is ridiculous, it outdoes anything i've ever seen. if i hung it on the wall and called it a window peoiple would only argue that they couldnt see the glass...
i took some screens, the camera fucks it sooooo bad but still, im sure you know how cameras fuck up screens so you can manage to "reconvert" the pictures in your head
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q187/Cptnodegard/PICT0362.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q187/Cptnodegard/PICT0357.jpg
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q187/Cptnodegard/PICT0348.jpg
Looks like the picture didn't get letterboxed to me.
Rouge8, have you managed to get a higher bit rate to work?
I've used virtual dub and the handheld xvid profile (max 537 kbps). If I use another profile then I get a blank screen.
Jet Audio can encode up to around 800 kbps and there is a 1.5Mbps setting so it can handle a higher bit rate. I just can't get a higher one to work.
Any ideas?
Using mencoder I was able to rip at 800 kbps.
Captain Ødegård
02-18-2007, 07:04
letterboxed? anyways, going to update the first post now
Using mencoder I was able to rip at 800 kbps.
OK, thanks.
I'll have a look at it. Still can't get normal xvid to work at rates above 537 and it's really bugging me now.
just a tip! Using the Jetaudio xvid avi preset will make the family guy episode just 100MB and there wont be any sync probs... I think Jet audio is a very good conversion Software... d2 schould be fixed...
Another Software is TPMG express
Will Jetaudio Convert from vob's?
letterboxed? anyways, going to update the first post now
Yes. It appears the aspect ratio is off. There should be black bars at the top and bottom, but there aren't.
I converted a MPEG2 file which was set to 16:9 and JetAudio correctly dealt with the aspect ratio.
On that basis, it should work with VOBs (which are MPEG2s but with some extra information) as well but I haven't tested any yet to check.
@ Captain Ødegård
I've been playing with Gordian Knot and finally managed to understand what it does in the background.
I have a suspicion that the bit rate settings on the bit rate tab do not have any impact on the xvid encoder settings but I would like to confirm this.
Can you check what profile your xvid encoder is set to? You do this when adding a job on the encoder tab, then clicking on xvid, and then clicking on xvid codec settings. It will then display the bit rate and the profile.
That would be very helpful, thanks.
Thanks for posting the Madagascar youtube video. I'm looking to get a device for myself and have sorta narrowed it down to the D2 or Iriver Clix 2. The nice advantage the Clix 2 has is the nicer AMOLED screen, the colors seem a lot more vibrant. What I keep seeing on videos and pictures of the D2 are somewhat lighter colors, plus everything seems to have a slight bluish tint to it. Has anyone else noticed that? Anyone have opinions of the D2 screen quality when watching videos?
Nope. You can't compare footage from pictures on the web and youtube.
You need to see them yourself. I think the D2 looks great and has a wide variety of colours.
I'm really happy with the quality of the screen, no visible blueish tint that I can see. Pictures taken of it by camera don't tend to do the screen many favours, but here's a few I took of an episode of Black Books, transcoded via Jet Audio from a 160mb avi
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v335/emjayhaych/d2mov3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v335/emjayhaych/d2mov1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v335/emjayhaych/d2mov2.jpg
Captain Ødegård
02-25-2007, 06:44
@ mrsmr2
I got a little help with the xvid settings to include more advanced options than just target bitrate.
I use twopass encoding with second pass target bitrate set to 644 (i now have it on 512 as i find it sufficient). I use the advance simple @ l3 profile. I havnt tried playing a ripped un|-letterboxed movie since I started using 512kbs, might have done the trick.
So are you saying that you change the bit rate setting within the xvid encoding screen?
I think I tried advanced simple @ l3 but I'll try again.
Thanks
EDIT: just tried it and it worked. However, it produced a more compressed file than the handheld profile even though I had the bit rate set to the max of 768.
Anyway, will continue to experiment.
EDIT 2: advanced simple level 3 & 4 work (tested 4 up to 1.4mbps) on the D2 but they are messing with the framerate - looks like it's skipping a field (my test source is interlaced).
As soon as I tell if to encode as interlaced, it won't play on the D2.
EDIT 3: with my current test, I was able to get handheld profile running on 1 pass and 1.4mbps. If I try 2 pass, the bit rate drops back to within the profile limit e.g. 537. This definitely wasn't working for me before. For the record, I'm using VirtualDubMPEG2 to read an interlaced PAL video clip, and xvid and Lame MP3 encode codecs.
LostPhil
02-26-2007, 06:44
I have a problem thats really starting to bug me! It's taken me nearly 2 days of trying to sort it so I'm going to take the plunge and actually ask for help!
I've ripped an episode of Scrubs to a Vob file using DVD Decrypter. This plays fine. BUT when using AutoGK and trying to convert to an Xvid AVI the audio is (roughly) 8500 ms out (the audio starts but the video is delayed for a few seconds). I have tried to correct this afterwards using Virtual Dub. The thing is when I use the interlacing options to delay the audio this causes the video to stutter and playback incredibly poorly both in Virtual Dub and the file created by it. I'm stumped! I just want to watch my Scrubs and Family Guy DVD's at work!
I've downloaded Gordian Knot Rip Pack and the Codec pack as well. If anyone could help me try and solve this problem I'd be incredibly grateful! One of the components could not install properly (no idea what it was called but it was one of the sub-installations) and I'm not sure if it is this thats causing the problem.
A step-by-step guide would be very helpful although I appreciate that a lot of effort would be needed to create one.
Thanks in advance [smile]
I've never had Out of sync audio with Autogk it's usually rock solid for me, I'd make sure you have the latest version and the latest version of xvid. Widescreen vids work fine for me I watched a few of my converted Enterprise Episodes and they were fantastic, but I've decided when encoding for the Device to Have the Shows crop out to 320x240. I encoded the 1st season of Smallville with clonemobile and used its built in Full Mode to Zoom it to fit, It does look better on the device to do this as Widescreen really makes the image small. I would'nt crop a 2:35 ratio movie to 320x240 that would lose too much info and really the screen is too small for movies, but a 1:78 tv show has most of the action confined to the center of the screen so cropping those to 320x240 is not as severe.
Captain Ødegård
02-26-2007, 08:45
Lol scrubs and family guy, same shows i collect on dvd. Though I also have them on divx, and i tried a ripped episode VS a converted episode and the difference isnt enough to make it worthwhile ripping every single episode.
SO
I just copied the seasons from my divx data dvd's and started connverting to 512KBS xvid as i find it sufficient for TV shows like that.
I'm now converting episode 4x15, i.e I already ocnverted three and a ahalf seasons :D I also have firefly and serenity converted, and some dvdrips of movies. Making a library so i can easily find something to put on the player
I already had a bunch of stuff encoded, some I needed to reencode from 640x480 but Jettools worked fine for that. I have alot of Classic TV series,
Mission Impossible, Star Trek (All versions) Gomer Pyle, Mash, All in the Familly, Smallville, Battlestar Galactica (New Series) and a bunch more
Captain Ødegård
02-26-2007, 13:42
I have a couple hundred seasons of random tv series alltogether ;) have all of star trek of course, and stargate. bsg, andromeda, lots of smaller series like mutant x. cant name all but its a lot
Now that I've started watching some of my vids I am encountering some out of sync audio. Not when I play the vid from scratch, but if I stop it, or if I scroll ahead, the audio gets out of sync. Anyone else finding this.
Yes.
I find pressing the back button (skip backwards, not the browser back button) once cures it.
If not, add a bookmark, turn off and try again from the bookmark.
try to use a program like v-dub that lets you play with the options of the encoders... also i used the popular ripped or hacked ver of the mp3 encoder and it works fine thus far at even 160 i havent tried anything diff and for tv stuff your right it will be prob overkill...
vdub has option in audio area and in video for sync areas... for some reason the fps changes a fraction from different encoders and thus gives sync issues... telling vdub to change the fps to sync with audio works thus far
also vdub is great cause its multi thread... and that works nice on my dual core 64bit amd chip... though only in 32bit :( i think it does about 2x as fast as jetaudio, as it uses both of the cores... while jet will only max use like other apps of 1 cpu equivelent, and all the options of encoding... the issue i have is vdub doesnt work with every encoder :( and that sucks have to use at times other one to cov to a higher quality and then use vdub with the settings i like to encode
I use mencoder, as I detailed here (http://iaudiophile.net/forums/showpost.php?p=111393&postcount=4).
Same here. Thanks for that, Rouge8!
Works beautifully. [laugh]
I actually just wanted to bump this as I found it a useful thread.
Although I have used AutoGK on VOBs and the files played out of sync on 2.41b.
strangeling
03-19-2007, 15:57
I actually just wanted to bump this as I found it a useful thread.
Although I have used AutoGK on VOBs and the files played out of sync on 2.41b.
Yeah, since 2.41b my AutoGK files play with the video -really- fast and the audio normal. However, converting those same files with jetAudio makes them play fine.
Hi,
I was wondering if anyone knows a good, simple program for fast conversion of video files for the D2.
I have some lectures in .avi that I'd like to put on my D2, but i find that jetAudio is slow, and since I'm not that concerned with the quality I was hoping someone could point me in the right direction [smile]
I was wondering if anyone knows a good, simple program for fast conversion of video files for the D2.
D2video converter (http://www.iaudiophile.net/forums/showthread.php?t=15977)
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